OC ACXLW Meetup in the park. You’re not measuring what you think/​Can people be wrong about subjective experience

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Hello folks!

I am glad to announce the 11th of a continuing series of Orange County ACX/​LW meetups. Meeting this Saturday and most Saturdays. The first few meetings were great (approximately 8 to 10 people), and I hope to see many of you at this one. Note that snack funding is cut for the time being but feel free to bring your own, or we might walk to food.

Saturday, 11/​19/​22, 2 pm

1900 Port Carlow Place, Newport Beach, 92660

The Picnic tables outside the community clubhouse

33.6173166789459, −117.85885652037152
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Contact me, Michael, at michaelmichalchik+acxlw@gmail.com with questions or requests.

Activities (all activities are optional)

A) Two conversation starter topics this week will be.


1) “You Are Not Measuring What You Think You Are Measuring” by John Wentworth

2) Can people be wrong about their subjective experience?

B) We will also have the card game Predictably Irrational. Feel free to bring your favorite games or distractions. This is a pet-friendly park and meeting.

C) We usually walk and talk for about an hour after the meeting starts. There are two easy-access mini-malls nearby with hot takeout food available. Search for Gelson’s or Pavilions in the zipcode 92660.

D) Share a surprise! Tell the group about something that happened that was unexpected or changed how you look at the universe.

E) Make a prediction and give a probability and end condition.

F) Contribute ideas to the group’s future direction: topics, types of meetings, activities, etc.


Conversation Starter Readings:
Suggested readings for this week are these summaries. These readings are optional, but if you do them, think about what you find interesting, surprising, useful, questionable, vexing, or exciting.

1) “You Are Not Measuring What You Think You Are Measuring” by John Wentworth

Is there such a thing as a controlled experiment, even at a practical level? Can we do better if we get past AB testing? Is preregistration creating the new problem of scope myopia?

Text

https://​​www.lesswrong.com/​​posts/​​9kNxhKWvixtKW5anS/​​you-are-not-measuring-what-you-think-you-are-measuring


Audio

https://​​podcastaddict.com/​​episode/​​145474916?fbclid=IwAR2QLkcQbrvSUGX0bdO0wuc4khaYOYr_jh9V0tAEt3ljARAZexpZ7bB1JQw

2) Can people be wrong in reporting their subjective experience? I disagree with Scott on this one, but for slightly different reasons than have been discussed in this article and the subsequent follow-ups.


Can People Be Honestly Wrong About Their Own Experiences?

https://​​astralcodexten.substack.com/​​p/​​can-people-be-honestly-wrong-about

Followup

Contra Resident Contrarian On Unfalsifiable Internal States

https://​​astralcodexten.substack.com/​​p/​​contra-resident-contrarian-on-unfalsifiable

Audio

https://​​sscpodcast.libsyn.com/​​website/​​can-people-be-honestly-wrong-about-their-own-experiences

Followup
https://​​sscpodcast.libsyn.com/​​website/​​contra-resident-contrarian-on-unfalsifiable-internal-states

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