Has there been a comparrison done of the relative micro-nutrient levels of low carb vs low fat diets? I think its very plausible that nutrient deficiency could manifest as hunger, generating weight gain as the body compels oneself to eat enough to fulfill nutrient requirements despite the excess of calories.
Interestingly, I saw on article on the topic of micronutrients and hunger just a few days ago here. He cites two studies on multivitamins that show in one case no impact on appetite, and in another case an increase in fasting desire to eat but no impact on hunger, fullness, or prospective food consumption. With respect to the relative micronutrient levels of low-carb vs. low-fat diets it depends critically on the composition of such diets, and all of the studies that I’ve seen comparing them have a complete profile, as far as I can remember.
That makes sense. I mean, whether you cut fat or carbs you still have access to a variety of meat and vegetables, and people would want to study one variable at a time.
I think its very plausible that nutrient deficiency could manifest as hunger, generating weight gain as the body compels oneself to eat enough to fulfill nutrient requirements despite the excess of calories.
I don’t know if it’s been studied, but I don’t find it plausible at all. Under the micronutrient theory, you could arguably control your weight by eating micro-nutrient fortified doughnuts for breakfast. Or eat a hamburger, french fries, and a micro-nutrient pill for lunch. If it were that easy, surely word would have spread around by now.
Or there’s multiple needs that play on the same mechanism, making it harder to tangle out specific causes, rather than simpler. You need calories and nutrients from food to function properly, why should hunger only arise from one?
And also, you are assuming we have identified every micronutrient are are capable of adequately fortifying a donut with them.
Or there’s multiple needs that play on the same mechanism, making it harder to tangle out specific causes, rather than simpler. You need calories and nutrients from food to function properly, why should hunger only arise from one?
Well there are a lot of possibilities, but if there are multiple micronutrients in play, then doughnuts could be fortified with all of them.
And also, you are assuming we have identified every micronutrient are are capable of adequately fortifying a donut with them.
Not necessarily. If excessive eating results from a deficiency of 10 micronutrients, it’s reasonable to expect that supplementing 5 of them would have a marked impact. Besides, it’s also reasonable assume that these micronutrients are around in varying amounts in different kinds of foods. If the micronutrient hypothesis were correct, surely someone would have noticed by now that if you eat a serving of miracle foods X and Y every day, then the rest of the day you can eat whatever you want in the amounts you want and get and stay thin. Especially since people have been searching for foods like this for years with little success.
If the micronutrient hypothesis were correct, surely someone would have noticed by now that if you eat a serving of miracle foods X and Y every day, then the rest of the day you can eat whatever you want in the amounts you want and get and stay thin. Especially since people have been searching for foods like this for years with little success.
There was a wave of spam some years back for a type of bread that supposedly drastically reduced hunger. So if the spam is to be believed… which of course it isn’t. But I’m curious to know if anyone has tried it.
There was a wave of spam some years back for a type of bread that supposedly drastically reduced hunger. So if the spam is to be believed… which of course it isn’t.
Lol, of course not. People have been chasing the chimera of nutritionism for decades and perhaps more. i.e. the idea that if you simply add or subtract some component to or from your diet, you can then eat tasty food ad libitum and get and stay thin. Taubes’ theory is just another example of nutritionism. The micronutrient hypothesis is another example.
Has there been a comparrison done of the relative micro-nutrient levels of low carb vs low fat diets? I think its very plausible that nutrient deficiency could manifest as hunger, generating weight gain as the body compels oneself to eat enough to fulfill nutrient requirements despite the excess of calories.
Interestingly, I saw on article on the topic of micronutrients and hunger just a few days ago here. He cites two studies on multivitamins that show in one case no impact on appetite, and in another case an increase in fasting desire to eat but no impact on hunger, fullness, or prospective food consumption. With respect to the relative micronutrient levels of low-carb vs. low-fat diets it depends critically on the composition of such diets, and all of the studies that I’ve seen comparing them have a complete profile, as far as I can remember.
That makes sense. I mean, whether you cut fat or carbs you still have access to a variety of meat and vegetables, and people would want to study one variable at a time.
I don’t know if it’s been studied, but I don’t find it plausible at all. Under the micronutrient theory, you could arguably control your weight by eating micro-nutrient fortified doughnuts for breakfast. Or eat a hamburger, french fries, and a micro-nutrient pill for lunch. If it were that easy, surely word would have spread around by now.
Or there’s multiple needs that play on the same mechanism, making it harder to tangle out specific causes, rather than simpler. You need calories and nutrients from food to function properly, why should hunger only arise from one?
And also, you are assuming we have identified every micronutrient are are capable of adequately fortifying a donut with them.
Well there are a lot of possibilities, but if there are multiple micronutrients in play, then doughnuts could be fortified with all of them.
Not necessarily. If excessive eating results from a deficiency of 10 micronutrients, it’s reasonable to expect that supplementing 5 of them would have a marked impact. Besides, it’s also reasonable assume that these micronutrients are around in varying amounts in different kinds of foods. If the micronutrient hypothesis were correct, surely someone would have noticed by now that if you eat a serving of miracle foods X and Y every day, then the rest of the day you can eat whatever you want in the amounts you want and get and stay thin. Especially since people have been searching for foods like this for years with little success.
There was a wave of spam some years back for a type of bread that supposedly drastically reduced hunger. So if the spam is to be believed… which of course it isn’t. But I’m curious to know if anyone has tried it.
Lol, of course not. People have been chasing the chimera of nutritionism for decades and perhaps more. i.e. the idea that if you simply add or subtract some component to or from your diet, you can then eat tasty food ad libitum and get and stay thin. Taubes’ theory is just another example of nutritionism. The micronutrient hypothesis is another example.