That’s a salient difference if his involvement is providing us with evidence, but not if it isn’t.
I suppose it’s fair to say that if our universe was created by a clockmaker God who didn’t interfere with our world, then it wouldn’t matter to us whether or not He existed. But since there’s a lot of reason to think that God does interact with us humans (like, transcripts of His conversations with them), then it does matter.
Well, I’m willing to discuss the evidence for and against that proposition. Naturally, I would not be an atheist if I thought the weight of evidence was in favor of an interventionist god existing.
Some of them have certainly convinced people. I’ve convinced a number of people myself, and I’ve known plenty of other people who were convinced by debates with other people (or even more often, by observing debates between other people, since it’s easier to change your mind when you’re not locked in an adversarial debate mindset. This is why it’s important not to fall into the trap of thinking of your debate partner as an opponent.)
A lot of religious debates are not productive, people tend to go into them very attached to their conclusions, but they’re by no means uniformly fruitless.
I like debates a lot, and I’ve very much enjoyed whatever you call this here. But I’m not interested in a full-blown debate here and now, especially since there are about five of you.
I suppose it’s fair to say that if our universe was created by a clockmaker God who didn’t interfere with our world, then it wouldn’t matter to us whether or not He existed. But since there’s a lot of reason to think that God does interact with us humans (like, transcripts of His conversations with them), then it does matter.
Well, I’m willing to discuss the evidence for and against that proposition. Naturally, I would not be an atheist if I thought the weight of evidence was in favor of an interventionist god existing.
Naturally. But there have been a lot of debates about which way the evidence points, and none of them seem to have convinced anyone.
Some of them have certainly convinced people. I’ve convinced a number of people myself, and I’ve known plenty of other people who were convinced by debates with other people (or even more often, by observing debates between other people, since it’s easier to change your mind when you’re not locked in an adversarial debate mindset. This is why it’s important not to fall into the trap of thinking of your debate partner as an opponent.)
A lot of religious debates are not productive, people tend to go into them very attached to their conclusions, but they’re by no means uniformly fruitless.
I like debates a lot, and I’ve very much enjoyed whatever you call this here. But I’m not interested in a full-blown debate here and now, especially since there are about five of you.