Fair point. The version of the Mary’s room setup that’s relevant to this discussion is where Mary knows everything about color vision that could be transmitted via text, e.g. the best and most comprehensive possible textbook on color vision.
I agree that I could describe my experience of red to Mary, but if Mary is skeptical / doesn’t trust me to report my experiences honestly I don’t know how I could convince her of anything, really.
It seems you’re very concerned about being thought a liar or a fake if you say more about your experiences. (E.g., you bring that up here, but so far as I can see no one in this thread has been suggesting anything of the kind.) Is there a particular reason for that?
(For the avoidance of doubt, I think it very unlikely that what you’re saying—or indeed what you’re avoiding saying—is lies or fakery.)
Mostly the response to the Kensho thread. Also some common knowledge thing along the lines of, I don’t want to make strong claims on the basis of weak evidence because I don’t want people to think I think other people have or should have weak epistemic standards.
Fair point. The version of the Mary’s room setup that’s relevant to this discussion is where Mary knows everything about color vision that could be transmitted via text, e.g. the best and most comprehensive possible textbook on color vision.
I agree that I could describe my experience of red to Mary, but if Mary is skeptical / doesn’t trust me to report my experiences honestly I don’t know how I could convince her of anything, really.
It seems you’re very concerned about being thought a liar or a fake if you say more about your experiences. (E.g., you bring that up here, but so far as I can see no one in this thread has been suggesting anything of the kind.) Is there a particular reason for that?
(For the avoidance of doubt, I think it very unlikely that what you’re saying—or indeed what you’re avoiding saying—is lies or fakery.)
Mostly the response to the Kensho thread. Also some common knowledge thing along the lines of, I don’t want to make strong claims on the basis of weak evidence because I don’t want people to think I think other people have or should have weak epistemic standards.