Oh interesting! I didn’t realise there was another archive. Is this “canonical” in some sense? My understanding was that the original extropians list kinda fizzled out, does this modern version keep the same vibe/discussions/ideas?
It is canonical in practically every sense. The old list ran into technical hiccups, then got reconstituted on a new platform.
Check my name in your tool. I was there on the old list. I saw it transition. Check the first month of posts on the new list, and you’ll see me posting there too. If my evidence alone is not enough, check the names of other posters: I suspect that most of the most common old list posters you’ll check will show up on the new list too.
It is true that some of the most recent discussions have a different vibe than the old list’s, as some of the predictions have started to come true. (For instance, it was one thing to discuss self-improving AI as a future hypothetical, but it is another to discuss it when there are at least technically qualifying examples of it in public evidence at the time of discussion. Also, recent politics have risen as a substantial risk factor to certain scenarios.) But there remains at least some futurism, and some of us continue to try to build the future in our own ways, to varying degrees of success.
Do you think you can add the modern version of the Extropians list? https://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/ picks up about a year and a half after http://extropians.weidai.com/ leaves off.
Oh interesting! I didn’t realise there was another archive. Is this “canonical” in some sense? My understanding was that the original extropians list kinda fizzled out, does this modern version keep the same vibe/discussions/ideas?
It is canonical in practically every sense. The old list ran into technical hiccups, then got reconstituted on a new platform.
Check my name in your tool. I was there on the old list. I saw it transition. Check the first month of posts on the new list, and you’ll see me posting there too. If my evidence alone is not enough, check the names of other posters: I suspect that most of the most common old list posters you’ll check will show up on the new list too.
It is true that some of the most recent discussions have a different vibe than the old list’s, as some of the predictions have started to come true. (For instance, it was one thing to discuss self-improving AI as a future hypothetical, but it is another to discuss it when there are at least technically qualifying examples of it in public evidence at the time of discussion. Also, recent politics have risen as a substantial risk factor to certain scenarios.) But there remains at least some futurism, and some of us continue to try to build the future in our own ways, to varying degrees of success.
Okay cool! I’ll add the new archive. Not sure if I can promise to regularly update it though.
EDIT: done! I also added 3D embeddings and made the embeddings map faster to handle the 256k messages.