Ok, I have to switch gears a bit. I will try to get into a mode of not arguing towards something but just telling you my thoughts as they are; as an experiment in communication. If you find this unhelpful feel free to ignore my comment!
I see what you are saying and I am wondering; what am I arguing about? Our exchange gives me a sense of being vague. As if we are not communicating properly and there isn’t a clear focus on what we are talking about. I think this might be because of the vagueness of my original criticism. After some reflection on my previous comments, and reading some of your links, I can express my disagreement as:
Articulating concepts is obviously useful. But this has been done by people for centuries. There are a few possibilities:
[1] No culture has in the past reach the level of understanding we have at the moment so this is the time to create new concepts that would allow us to understand humans. By us I mean me and you in this discussions.
[2] The material is out there and is constantly maintained by the people that have the knowledge.
It seems that in my belief system I have reached the conclusion that [2] is the case.
(If you are getting ‘evangelist’ alert I assure you this is not going to happen. Also to reiterate: I am not religious)
So, to sum up. It is my belief that you are trying to reinvent the wheel here. I am aware that stating something like that without offering solutions and material is kind of a shitty argument. But hey, now you know something about what I really think...
Ah, no worries! I agree that what I am doing has already been invented in some form or another (see NLP). I take it as a given that what I’m writing here may already be articulated by other people in a much more informative way.
My general goals here are to illustrate what I believe, and if people see connections to existing concepts, I’m happy if they point out “hey, lifelonglearner, this idea is already a thing in the form of concept X!”, because then I can read more on it.
My general goals here are to illustrate what I believe, and if people see connections to existing concepts, I’m happy if they point out “hey, lifelonglearner, this idea is already a thing in the form of concept X!”, because then I can read more on it.
I think that is a great use of humility! I am attempting to do the same :)
Ok, I have to switch gears a bit. I will try to get into a mode of not arguing towards something but just telling you my thoughts as they are; as an experiment in communication. If you find this unhelpful feel free to ignore my comment!
I see what you are saying and I am wondering; what am I arguing about? Our exchange gives me a sense of being vague. As if we are not communicating properly and there isn’t a clear focus on what we are talking about. I think this might be because of the vagueness of my original criticism. After some reflection on my previous comments, and reading some of your links, I can express my disagreement as:
Articulating concepts is obviously useful. But this has been done by people for centuries. There are a few possibilities:
[1] No culture has in the past reach the level of understanding we have at the moment so this is the time to create new concepts that would allow us to understand humans. By us I mean me and you in this discussions.
[2] The material is out there and is constantly maintained by the people that have the knowledge.
It seems that in my belief system I have reached the conclusion that [2] is the case.
(If you are getting ‘evangelist’ alert I assure you this is not going to happen. Also to reiterate: I am not religious)
So, to sum up. It is my belief that you are trying to reinvent the wheel here. I am aware that stating something like that without offering solutions and material is kind of a shitty argument. But hey, now you know something about what I really think...
Ah, no worries! I agree that what I am doing has already been invented in some form or another (see NLP). I take it as a given that what I’m writing here may already be articulated by other people in a much more informative way.
My general goals here are to illustrate what I believe, and if people see connections to existing concepts, I’m happy if they point out “hey, lifelonglearner, this idea is already a thing in the form of concept X!”, because then I can read more on it.
I think that is a great use of humility! I am attempting to do the same :)