I have no interest, rational, emotional or otherwise, in funding a life for free steers in the wild.
Without engaging with any of your other points, I’d just like to point out that the OP considers the good outcome to be one where farm animals don’t exist at all, rather than one where they’re free in the wild. (Because if animals don’t exist then they can’t suffer.)
Quite so. The OP I think is more concerned about factory farming than the more traditional grazing approaches to cattle. But I think if you push a morality too far up against the hill of human desire it will collapse. Many activists overestimate the “care factor”. My ability to care is pretty limited. I can’t and won’t care about 7 billion other humans on this planet except in the thinnest and most meaningless senses (i.e. stated preferences in surveys which are near worthless) let along the x billion animals. In terms of revealed preferences (where I put my dollars and power) I favour the near and the dear over the stranger and the genetically unrelated.
The Daleks are well established as natural, non-human, sentient biological organisms inside armor. Details have varied over the years, but I don’t think they’ve ever qualified as AIs.
The Daleks are well established as natural, non-human, sentient biological organisms inside armor. Details have varied over the years, but I don’t think they’ve ever qualified as AIs.
They have always been biological but they are also typically genetically engineered at a rather fundamental level to produce desired psychological traits. While I would not use “AIs” myself in such circumstances I see some merit in differentiating between the bioloical vs electronic distinction and the natural vs artificial intelligence distinction.
Without engaging with any of your other points, I’d just like to point out that the OP considers the good outcome to be one where farm animals don’t exist at all, rather than one where they’re free in the wild. (Because if animals don’t exist then they can’t suffer.)
Quite so. The OP I think is more concerned about factory farming than the more traditional grazing approaches to cattle. But I think if you push a morality too far up against the hill of human desire it will collapse. Many activists overestimate the “care factor”. My ability to care is pretty limited. I can’t and won’t care about 7 billion other humans on this planet except in the thinnest and most meaningless senses (i.e. stated preferences in surveys which are near worthless) let along the x billion animals. In terms of revealed preferences (where I put my dollars and power) I favour the near and the dear over the stranger and the genetically unrelated.
Ex-ter-min-ate! Ex-ter-min-ate!! EX-TER-MIN-ATE!!!
That explains the Daleks. They’re failed FAIs that were built to eliminate suffering from the universe.
Fanboy mode on:
The Daleks are well established as natural, non-human, sentient biological organisms inside armor. Details have varied over the years, but I don’t think they’ve ever qualified as AIs.
They have always been biological but they are also typically genetically engineered at a rather fundamental level to produce desired psychological traits. While I would not use “AIs” myself in such circumstances I see some merit in differentiating between the bioloical vs electronic distinction and the natural vs artificial intelligence distinction.