I have not. A reasonable person would have. I think obtaining it rather complicated (in Finland, that is), but possibly worth it. Possibly worth it doesn’t mean worth it. I recognize that I’m probably not thinking clearly about this.
But what’s the reason to be productive beyond my natural abilities? I fear I would just use it all to make even more money, which doesn’t matter to my wellbeing at all. The admiration of others? That would be cheating. Self actualization? I don’t think depression will go away by just doing more stuff, the problem isn’t not doing enough, it’s not enjoying the results. Fixable with other medication? Possibly. (Go to step one)
I mean it really just sounds like you have ADHD is what I mean.
But what’s the reason to be productive beyond my natural abilities?
You are complaining about not being productive enough, presumably you care about productivity, why care also about whether its “natural”. If you think you have depression instead of ADHD, then the reason is so that you feel better! If Nature decided to make you miserable or distractable, then imo Nature had it coming.
I fear I would just use it all to make even more money, which doesn’t matter to my wellbeing at all.
You can always stop (modulo slowly decreasing your dosage so as not to trigger withdrawal if necessary)? For depression, clearly if you treat that with medication, your wellbeing will just definitely go up, regardless of whether you use your extra motivation to make more money.
The admiration of others? That would be cheating.
Plenty of people take drugs to treat mental illness, that is not “cheating” any more than antibiotics, surgery, or any of the other modern miracles we’re able to use to better the human condition.
Self actualization? I don’t think depression will go away by just doing more stuff, the problem isn’t not doing enough, it’s not enjoying the results
Then try an anti-depressant. Note also that this is an incorrect theory of depression, depression does indeed get better by doing stuff, and it is a common bias that depressed people have to believe nothing they do will work. If you think you have depression rather than ADHD, then take some antidepressant or something, or actually try to treat what you think you have.
I suggest you stop trying to come up with silly excuses not to fix your problems. That is not to say that there aren’t better options than medication, but each of your excuses here either reveal an ignorance about what treatments of mental illnesses actually do, or boil down to “but here’s a big brain reason why if it worked that’d actually be bad, therefore I will continue to wallow in misery for my whole life”.
I have not. A reasonable person would have. I think obtaining it rather complicated (in Finland, that is), but possibly worth it. Possibly worth it doesn’t mean worth it. I recognize that I’m probably not thinking clearly about this.
But what’s the reason to be productive beyond my natural abilities? I fear I would just use it all to make even more money, which doesn’t matter to my wellbeing at all. The admiration of others? That would be cheating. Self actualization? I don’t think depression will go away by just doing more stuff, the problem isn’t not doing enough, it’s not enjoying the results. Fixable with other medication? Possibly. (Go to step one)
I mean it really just sounds like you have ADHD is what I mean.
You are complaining about not being productive enough, presumably you care about productivity, why care also about whether its “natural”. If you think you have depression instead of ADHD, then the reason is so that you feel better! If Nature decided to make you miserable or distractable, then imo Nature had it coming.
You can always stop (modulo slowly decreasing your dosage so as not to trigger withdrawal if necessary)? For depression, clearly if you treat that with medication, your wellbeing will just definitely go up, regardless of whether you use your extra motivation to make more money.
Plenty of people take drugs to treat mental illness, that is not “cheating” any more than antibiotics, surgery, or any of the other modern miracles we’re able to use to better the human condition.
Then try an anti-depressant. Note also that this is an incorrect theory of depression, depression does indeed get better by doing stuff, and it is a common bias that depressed people have to believe nothing they do will work. If you think you have depression rather than ADHD, then take some antidepressant or something, or actually try to treat what you think you have.
I suggest you stop trying to come up with silly excuses not to fix your problems. That is not to say that there aren’t better options than medication, but each of your excuses here either reveal an ignorance about what treatments of mental illnesses actually do, or boil down to “but here’s a big brain reason why if it worked that’d actually be bad, therefore I will continue to wallow in misery for my whole life”.