Actually, quick check—was it clear from the text that there are two 3-day weekend camps and one 1-week camp? Hopefully a 3-day camp wouldn’t be that expensive in terms of vacation time not spent elsewhere. Go ahead and ignore this comment if it was already clear, but if it wasn’t clear from the text let me know and I can try to emphasize it more strongly.
I would prefer the weeklong one but am considering the weekends. The cost of airfare is the same.
Another question: Is there any particular reason why you are including the hotel costs into the fee? I can see the marketing value from “single number”, but for those already in the Bay Area (or with friends/family there), reducing that cost by a bit and staying elsewhere would be helpful.
If activities/teambuilding are going late, that makes sense, but that was not clear on a single read through (I could read through again to find out, but figure the feedback on this not being clear might be helpful).
Clarification: the weekend/weeklong distinction was NOT clear from the dates listed, I saw dates and skimmed for more information. It wasn’t until I got to the costs section that I realized it and went back up to the dates.
However I’d like to mildly dispute “Hopefully a 3-day camp wouldn’t be that expensive in terms of vacation time not spent elsewhere”.
...some of us come from another country (quite a few actually) - and the travel time alone is equal to the 3 days we’d spend on the actual camp. Plus a day or so adjusting to jetlag enough that we could even stay awake for the first day.… I’d estimate that for me to attend even the three day camp would be, at minimum, a seven day vacation.
Factor in the significant cost of the airfares, and we’re starting to talk a lot of vacation-opportunity-cost.
Obviously, attending the longer camp would be a better signal-to-noise ratio… but would still be a serious undertaking.
PS: that’s not to say, of course, that’s it’s not still worth the effort. Personally I’m looking into my options to see if I can pull it together to get to the week-long one this time…
The main point is just not to forget that a significant number of LW readers are in a quite different situation to your own and thus the difficulty of attending should not be inadvertently trivialised.
Actually, quick check—was it clear from the text that there are two 3-day weekend camps and one 1-week camp? Hopefully a 3-day camp wouldn’t be that expensive in terms of vacation time not spent elsewhere. Go ahead and ignore this comment if it was already clear, but if it wasn’t clear from the text let me know and I can try to emphasize it more strongly.
FWIW, it was not clear from a skim.
Okay, went in and fixed.
Yes, it was clear to me.
I would prefer the weeklong one but am considering the weekends. The cost of airfare is the same.
Another question: Is there any particular reason why you are including the hotel costs into the fee? I can see the marketing value from “single number”, but for those already in the Bay Area (or with friends/family there), reducing that cost by a bit and staying elsewhere would be helpful.
If activities/teambuilding are going late, that makes sense, but that was not clear on a single read through (I could read through again to find out, but figure the feedback on this not being clear might be helpful).
Clarification: the weekend/weeklong distinction was NOT clear from the dates listed, I saw dates and skimmed for more information. It wasn’t until I got to the costs section that I realized it and went back up to the dates.
It is clear now.
However I’d like to mildly dispute “Hopefully a 3-day camp wouldn’t be that expensive in terms of vacation time not spent elsewhere”.
...some of us come from another country (quite a few actually) - and the travel time alone is equal to the 3 days we’d spend on the actual camp. Plus a day or so adjusting to jetlag enough that we could even stay awake for the first day.… I’d estimate that for me to attend even the three day camp would be, at minimum, a seven day vacation.
Factor in the significant cost of the airfares, and we’re starting to talk a lot of vacation-opportunity-cost.
Obviously, attending the longer camp would be a better signal-to-noise ratio… but would still be a serious undertaking.
PS: that’s not to say, of course, that’s it’s not still worth the effort. Personally I’m looking into my options to see if I can pull it together to get to the week-long one this time…
The main point is just not to forget that a significant number of LW readers are in a quite different situation to your own and thus the difficulty of attending should not be inadvertently trivialised.