Hmm, after reading the post again I have downvoted it as too weak for Main. No new concepts, no interesting questions, just some musings. Not even a clear definition of what “conscious” means. The idea that “a secret Turing test is better than an overt one” is fine for Discussion, maybe, or for an open thread.
Not even a clear definition of what “conscious” means.
A definition of conscious is a high bar to cross! :-) One minor point is precisely that we don’t know what the Turing test is measuring—it’s measuring something related to intelligence and consciousness, possibly, but what exactly isn’t clear.
I think the more relevant points are the flaw in the Turing test (what should we expect after the headlines “AI passes the Turing test”?), and the possibility of quasi-p-zombies.
The idea that “a secret Turing test is better than an overt one” is fine for Discussion, maybe, or for an open thread.
I disagree, but will take your judgement into account.
Just because we don’t know what something is beyond a few vague verbal statements doesn’t mean we can’t know a few things it pretty definitely isn’t. See: most of human history.
Hmm, after reading the post again I have downvoted it as too weak for Main. No new concepts, no interesting questions, just some musings. Not even a clear definition of what “conscious” means. The idea that “a secret Turing test is better than an overt one” is fine for Discussion, maybe, or for an open thread.
A definition of conscious is a high bar to cross! :-) One minor point is precisely that we don’t know what the Turing test is measuring—it’s measuring something related to intelligence and consciousness, possibly, but what exactly isn’t clear.
I think the more relevant points are the flaw in the Turing test (what should we expect after the headlines “AI passes the Turing test”?), and the possibility of quasi-p-zombies.
I disagree, but will take your judgement into account.
This must be determined empirically. Anyone have access to a reputable news source?
Actually, scratch that, let’s just get the Onion to write it up.
If we don’t know what “intelligence” and “consciousness” are anyway, then it’s a distinction without a difference.
Just because we don’t know what something is beyond a few vague verbal statements doesn’t mean we can’t know a few things it pretty definitely isn’t. See: most of human history.