Dissent against ANY politics should be culled. DISSENTING AGAINST POLITICS IS BAD FOR RATIONALITY. CHEERING FOR POLITICS IS BAD FOR RATIONALITY.
This is SUPER obvious because your dissent is just calling people crazy over and over, and saying it’s obvious that they’re crazy and you don’t understand how anyone could think they’re not crazy. YOU ARE MINDKILLED. You are not capable, or at least have not SHOWN yourself to be capable of dissenting against the politic you hate in anything like a reasonable fashion.
The point of this website is that lots of things that normal people take as obvious or intuitive are not in fact true, and based largely on their own biases. You seem to completely be missing this point in this and your other conversations about politics. So either do your research, come up with a refutation of objectivism based on actually reading it, or DON’T TALK ABOUT IT. Mentions of things you disagree with as crazy in an offhanded way is exactly what we don’t want.
You are not capable, or at least have not SHOWN yourself to be capable
I find it telling that you can’t commit to one of those two possibilities. Especially since my assessment is that you’re strawmanning Sophronius pretty hard.
Why does a rant with all capital letter shouting get upvoted to +9 by Less Wrong users? Calling me mindkilled and saying I can’t be reasonable and should go away and stop talking is both rude and unhelpful.
I’m probably just going to downvote you from here on out but let me respond one last time: I did NOT tell you to go away. I did NOT tell you to stop talking. Whatever you may have thought of my tone or ALL CAPITAL LETTER SHOUTING, my message is different. When you say “I think x, and those idiot followers of y disagree with me!” and I tell you to NOT say that last part, that is not the same as telling you to stop talking or go away.
If you look through my comments, you’ll see plenty end up negative and people yell at me for saying dumb shit. But what they’re saying isn’t GO AWAY or SHUT UP, it’s BE BETTER. Obviously if you refuse to understand this I do in fact want you to go away, but I hope that instead you’ll realize what you’ve been doing wrong.
Because it’s trying to tell you why you are getting the reaction you are, and people are agreeing with it.
So either do your research, come up with a refutation of objectivism based on actually reading it, or DON’T TALK ABOUT IT. Mentions of things you disagree with as crazy in an offhanded way is exactly what we don’t want.
Of course it’s not working! When has shouting at someone in all capital letters ever worked? I don’t even know what this person is trying to accomplish, other than being rude and telling me to shut up. It bothers me extremely that this viewpoint would get so much support.
The fact that you don’t understand is the problem. It is also the problem with your main post (I’m talking about the post specifically, not your particular political opinions.) The main post is being downvoted because you fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the mindkiller sequence, and the political policy/preference of LW. In fact, your post is a prime example of why there is such a strong bias against political articles and discussion.
I wish I had a way to convey the information you’d need to figure it out. Some people just get it, some people just don’t get it. I haven’t spent much time thinking about why, or how to convey it, but my initial guess is that it wouldn’t be easy.
I don’t even know what this person is trying to accomplish, other than being rude and telling me to shut up.
Maybe get you into looking at what people are actually saying and taking some time to come up with replies that actually address that content in a meaningful way, instead of just responding with cached thoughts like “Republicans are crazy” or “shouting is rude”. And to realize that coming up with thoughtful replies isn’t just a question of figuring out the correct etiquette, but requires skill and insight which you might not always have.
Because if you read the recommendations they are none of them objectionable though some may be mistaken if taken as moral injunctions rather than as guides to bear in mind. Your post otoh, is mealy mouthed misdirection combined with “Boo blues!”.
Don’t discuss politics, discuss policy, unless you’re aiming to overthrow the system because even if you devote your entire life to one singular policy goal, and get elected to your national Parliament your chances of achieving your goal is not great.
Dissent against ANY politics should be culled. DISSENTING AGAINST POLITICS IS BAD FOR RATIONALITY. CHEERING FOR POLITICS IS BAD FOR RATIONALITY.
This is SUPER obvious because your dissent is just calling people crazy over and over, and saying it’s obvious that they’re crazy and you don’t understand how anyone could think they’re not crazy. YOU ARE MINDKILLED. You are not capable, or at least have not SHOWN yourself to be capable of dissenting against the politic you hate in anything like a reasonable fashion.
The point of this website is that lots of things that normal people take as obvious or intuitive are not in fact true, and based largely on their own biases. You seem to completely be missing this point in this and your other conversations about politics. So either do your research, come up with a refutation of objectivism based on actually reading it, or DON’T TALK ABOUT IT. Mentions of things you disagree with as crazy in an offhanded way is exactly what we don’t want.
I find it telling that you can’t commit to one of those two possibilities. Especially since my assessment is that you’re strawmanning Sophronius pretty hard.
Why does a rant with all capital letter shouting get upvoted to +9 by Less Wrong users? Calling me mindkilled and saying I can’t be reasonable and should go away and stop talking is both rude and unhelpful.
I’m probably just going to downvote you from here on out but let me respond one last time: I did NOT tell you to go away. I did NOT tell you to stop talking. Whatever you may have thought of my tone or ALL CAPITAL LETTER SHOUTING, my message is different. When you say “I think x, and those idiot followers of y disagree with me!” and I tell you to NOT say that last part, that is not the same as telling you to stop talking or go away.
If you look through my comments, you’ll see plenty end up negative and people yell at me for saying dumb shit. But what they’re saying isn’t GO AWAY or SHUT UP, it’s BE BETTER. Obviously if you refuse to understand this I do in fact want you to go away, but I hope that instead you’ll realize what you’ve been doing wrong.
Because it’s trying to tell you why you are getting the reaction you are, and people are agreeing with it.
Looks like it’s not working too well though.
Of course it’s not working! When has shouting at someone in all capital letters ever worked? I don’t even know what this person is trying to accomplish, other than being rude and telling me to shut up. It bothers me extremely that this viewpoint would get so much support.
The fact that you don’t understand is the problem. It is also the problem with your main post (I’m talking about the post specifically, not your particular political opinions.) The main post is being downvoted because you fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the mindkiller sequence, and the political policy/preference of LW. In fact, your post is a prime example of why there is such a strong bias against political articles and discussion.
I wish I had a way to convey the information you’d need to figure it out. Some people just get it, some people just don’t get it. I haven’t spent much time thinking about why, or how to convey it, but my initial guess is that it wouldn’t be easy.
Maybe get you into looking at what people are actually saying and taking some time to come up with replies that actually address that content in a meaningful way, instead of just responding with cached thoughts like “Republicans are crazy” or “shouting is rude”. And to realize that coming up with thoughtful replies isn’t just a question of figuring out the correct etiquette, but requires skill and insight which you might not always have.
Because if you read the recommendations they are none of them objectionable though some may be mistaken if taken as moral injunctions rather than as guides to bear in mind. Your post otoh, is mealy mouthed misdirection combined with “Boo blues!”.
Don’t discuss politics, discuss policy, unless you’re aiming to overthrow the system because even if you devote your entire life to one singular policy goal, and get elected to your national Parliament your chances of achieving your goal is not great.