I wonder if the converse story, Failed Utopia #2-4 of Helen and the boreana, would get the same proportion of comments from women on how that was a perfectly fine world.
I wonder how bad I would actually have to make a Utopia before people stopped trying to defend it.
The number of people who think this scenario seems “good enough” or an “amazing improvement”, makes me wonder what would happen if I tried showing off what I consider to be an actual shot at Applied Fun Theory. My suspicion is that people would turn around and criticize it—that what we’re really seeing here is contrarianism. But if not—if this world indeed ranks lower in my preference ordering, just because I have better scenarios to compare it to—then what happens if I write the Successful Utopia story?
I have to say, though I recognize that this is four years on, I would be extremely interested in your actual shot at Applied Fun Theory. The best thing I’ve ever read in that category so far is Iceman’s Friendship is Optimal, which you of course are already aware of.
I, along several others, were perplexed at your distaste for the world it portrayed, and while I’m sure better could be achieved, I’d be interested to see exactly where you’d go, if you found FiO actual horror material.
makes me wonder what would happen if I tried showing off what I consider to be an actual shot at Applied Fun Theory. My suspicion is that people would turn around and criticize it
I can’t tell if dath ilan (as portrayed in Project Lawful and elsewhere) is supposed to be “an actual shot at Applied Fun Theory”, and I’m somewhat leaning towards thinking it isn’t, but if it is, then your prediction is correct for at least one person. (Though I would probably still move there because it still sounds better than what I’ve got now. Honestly, I’d move there just for the Quiet Cities.)
that what we’re really seeing here is contrarianism
That would not be the only explanation for people calling your “Failed Utopia” not that bad and your “Successful Utopia” terrible.
I wonder how bad I would actually have to make a Utopia before people stopped trying to defend it.
If people are defending it, maybe that means it actually just isn’t that bad. I know I don’t need to tell you that “badness” isn’t a thing that exists in the aether, it’s a function of how people feel about things. (Edit: Of course, I know “it actually just isn’t that bad” isn’t the only explanation for people defending it. Just thought it was an explanation worth considering.)
Of course women would be smarter about sexual “utopias” than men. I mean no offense, biologically women have to be less impulsive about that sort of thing.
I wonder if the converse story, Failed Utopia #2-4 of Helen and the boreana, would get the same proportion of comments from women on how that was a perfectly fine world.
I wonder how bad I would actually have to make a Utopia before people stopped trying to defend it.
The number of people who think this scenario seems “good enough” or an “amazing improvement”, makes me wonder what would happen if I tried showing off what I consider to be an actual shot at Applied Fun Theory. My suspicion is that people would turn around and criticize it—that what we’re really seeing here is contrarianism. But if not—if this world indeed ranks lower in my preference ordering, just because I have better scenarios to compare it to—then what happens if I write the Successful Utopia story?
I have to say, though I recognize that this is four years on, I would be extremely interested in your actual shot at Applied Fun Theory. The best thing I’ve ever read in that category so far is Iceman’s Friendship is Optimal, which you of course are already aware of.
I, along several others, were perplexed at your distaste for the world it portrayed, and while I’m sure better could be achieved, I’d be interested to see exactly where you’d go, if you found FiO actual horror material.
I can’t tell if dath ilan (as portrayed in Project Lawful and elsewhere) is supposed to be “an actual shot at Applied Fun Theory”, and I’m somewhat leaning towards thinking it isn’t, but if it is, then your prediction is correct for at least one person. (Though I would probably still move there because it still sounds better than what I’ve got now. Honestly, I’d move there just for the Quiet Cities.)
That would not be the only explanation for people calling your “Failed Utopia” not that bad and your “Successful Utopia” terrible.
If people are defending it, maybe that means it actually just isn’t that bad. I know I don’t need to tell you that “badness” isn’t a thing that exists in the aether, it’s a function of how people feel about things. (Edit: Of course, I know “it actually just isn’t that bad” isn’t the only explanation for people defending it. Just thought it was an explanation worth considering.)
Of course women would be smarter about sexual “utopias” than men. I mean no offense, biologically women have to be less impulsive about that sort of thing.
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