I don’t know if many good specific examples exist. I might point at gource as an example of a guise/view i would commonly use, except any tool I’ve actually used approaching from this direction has been clunky to the point of uselessness. It would need really good keybinding & UI like what is seen in video editing and 3d modelling software. Sorry if the description is super fuzzy. It’s because the idea is super fuzzy. Like I said, I abandoned this idea a long time ago because it is too ambitious & questionably possible.
but debuggers exist, too.
Indeed, in many ways debuggers are much closer to what I wanted Naloe to be. Especially ones that work in the terminal with lots of nice keybindings for doing things quick, but they still very much keep the code stuck to this single klunky guise where it is text. I suppose you could call the callstack a different guise/view. That’s valid, but it’s a lot more constrained and klunky than the kind of flexible, mutable, visualization and interaction that I yearn for.
Specific examples could make this easier to understand.
You complain about editors working only with the source code, but debuggers exist, too.
I guess you want something more powerful than a typical debugger, but… well, an example would be helpful.
I don’t know if many good specific examples exist. I might point at gource as an example of a guise/view i would commonly use, except any tool I’ve actually used approaching from this direction has been clunky to the point of uselessness. It would need really good keybinding & UI like what is seen in video editing and 3d modelling software. Sorry if the description is super fuzzy. It’s because the idea is super fuzzy. Like I said, I abandoned this idea a long time ago because it is too ambitious & questionably possible.
Indeed, in many ways debuggers are much closer to what I wanted Naloe to be. Especially ones that work in the terminal with lots of nice keybindings for doing things quick, but they still very much keep the code stuck to this single klunky guise where it is text. I suppose you could call the callstack a different guise/view. That’s valid, but it’s a lot more constrained and klunky than the kind of flexible, mutable, visualization and interaction that I yearn for.