As a more peripheral lurker, this post basically doesn’t make any sense. I’d definitely recommend adding in background about who these people are, and what’s transpired earlier if. Then again, you might be trying to only communicate to a small number of people (though if that’s the case I’m not sure why you made this public, rather than DMing it)
In any case, whatever’s going on here sounds bad, and I hope you and others feel better.
I am probably more familiar with the context, so I agree that these things are bad, but this articles does a bad job at explaining convincingly why.
It reads like: Vassar is making some people sound crazy; here are examples of people sounding crazy. Well, that alone does not convince me that the people sound crazy as a consequence of whatever Vassar did to them, which seems to be the main accusation against him?
Then, Ziz says that Vassar is bad person. Sorry to go ad hominem, but isn’t Ziz the main example of a bad person is this community? More importantly, since when do we treat Ziz as a reliable narrator? (Didn’t Ziz also say that MIRI and CFAR are the worst people on this planet, or something like that?)
Olivia was banned and then unbanned… and that’s suppose to prove that she is super dangerous? Such drama happens on internet every day. (Recently I was banned from Reddit for 3 days.) I assume that there is much more behind this story, but the article doesn’t do a good job at explaining and documenting it.
The topic is important, and I guess the articles started a useful debate, but that’s because we already have information from other sources.
As a more peripheral lurker, this post basically doesn’t make any sense. I’d definitely recommend adding in background about who these people are, and what’s transpired earlier if. Then again, you might be trying to only communicate to a small number of people (though if that’s the case I’m not sure why you made this public, rather than DMing it)
In any case, whatever’s going on here sounds bad, and I hope you and others feel better.
I am probably more familiar with the context, so I agree that these things are bad, but this articles does a bad job at explaining convincingly why.
It reads like: Vassar is making some people sound crazy; here are examples of people sounding crazy. Well, that alone does not convince me that the people sound crazy as a consequence of whatever Vassar did to them, which seems to be the main accusation against him?
Then, Ziz says that Vassar is bad person. Sorry to go ad hominem, but isn’t Ziz the main example of a bad person is this community? More importantly, since when do we treat Ziz as a reliable narrator? (Didn’t Ziz also say that MIRI and CFAR are the worst people on this planet, or something like that?)
Olivia was banned and then unbanned… and that’s suppose to prove that she is super dangerous? Such drama happens on internet every day. (Recently I was banned from Reddit for 3 days.) I assume that there is much more behind this story, but the article doesn’t do a good job at explaining and documenting it.
The topic is important, and I guess the articles started a useful debate, but that’s because we already have information from other sources.