Wow, Phil. You manage to make saving the universe from a paperclipper sound so bad! If there’s a slow takeoff and malign AIs keep cropping up and they’re so hardened that people have to die to prevent them from escaping… then yes, people will die, one way or another. But your way of putting it makes it seem like that’s Eliezer’s fault. It’s not CEV’s fault that someone’s about to make a paperclipper.
It’s like saying, “Having a disaster preparedness plan will kill people, because it prioritizes saving the community over individuals who are in poor positions to escape.”
Well, yes. When a tsunami comes and you have a disaster preparedness plan, some people will die. But they won’t all die, because you went and did something about it.
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And the transported-back-to-1200 thread is ridiculous. In that scenario, you have just been stripped of all of the infrastructure required to bring your situation about. It’s completely 100% incomparable to anything on-topic.
Wow, Phil. You manage to make saving the universe from a paperclipper sound so bad! If there’s a slow takeoff and malign AIs keep cropping up and they’re so hardened that people have to die to prevent them from escaping… then yes, people will die, one way or another. But your way of putting it makes it seem like that’s Eliezer’s fault. It’s not CEV’s fault that someone’s about to make a paperclipper.
It’s like saying, “Having a disaster preparedness plan will kill people, because it prioritizes saving the community over individuals who are in poor positions to escape.”
Well, yes. When a tsunami comes and you have a disaster preparedness plan, some people will die. But they won’t all die, because you went and did something about it.
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And the transported-back-to-1200 thread is ridiculous. In that scenario, you have just been stripped of all of the infrastructure required to bring your situation about. It’s completely 100% incomparable to anything on-topic.