I see parts of mainstream society are now neoreactionary from your point of view.
No, the NRx and the machos have overlapping Venn diagrams. Neither one is a subset of the other.
it doesn’t give you the right to look down your nose at sweaty macho people who enjoy sport
I have nothing against vigorous exercise. I have a lot against trivializing/romanticizing physical harm.
in Maletopia it would suck to be a woman.
Why?
Egalitarian relationships can be expected only from one subset of the available men. The Manfolk tribe isn’t under any social pressure to treat women like sentient beings.
I have nothing against vigorous exercise. I have a lot against trivializing/romanticizing physical harm.
“sweaty macho” does sound like you are looking down your nose at sport in general, although perhaps this was not intentional. Anyway, I too am wary of martial arts that involve taking blows to the head, but I don’t think this provides sufficient justification for legislating against it.
If we extend to being against romanticizing mental/emotional harm too (and I don’t see why we shouldn’t), then we get into arguments over the superhappies from ‘three worlds collide’ and whether its meaningful to experience happiness without sadness.
Egalitarian relationships can be expected only from one subset of the available men. The Manfolk tribe isn’t under any social pressure to treat women like sentient beings.
If women don’t want to interact with Manfolk because they don’t treat women like sentient beings, then this creates social pressure to treat women like sentient beings. OTOH, if women do want to interact with Manfolk, then it would only suck to be a woman if women consistently make choices that make them unhappy, such as the choice to interact with Manfolk. But if women cannot make sensible choices, then they shouldn’t be in egalitarian relationships anyway.
But regardless, your statement conflates ‘Egalitarian relationships’ with ‘treat women like sentient beings’. Adults have dominant relationships over children. Do adults think that children are non-sentient?
Furthermore, you have a really stereotypical view of macho people. I know martial arts people, including one who has been in cagefights, and he is really feminist. (The rest of them are mostly into egalitarian relationships as well, except for a few those who are into consensual BDSM)
OTOH, I’ve only met one person who’s in the army, and he threatened to sexually assault me in my sleep. I’ve heard the hypothosis that 80% of people in the army are sociopaths. But there’s a difference between people who would enjoy ritualised combat in controlled conditions, and people who think that killing sounds like a good career.
No, the NRx and the machos have overlapping Venn diagrams. Neither one is a subset of the other.
I have nothing against vigorous exercise. I have a lot against trivializing/romanticizing physical harm.
Egalitarian relationships can be expected only from one subset of the available men. The Manfolk tribe isn’t under any social pressure to treat women like sentient beings.
“sweaty macho” does sound like you are looking down your nose at sport in general, although perhaps this was not intentional. Anyway, I too am wary of martial arts that involve taking blows to the head, but I don’t think this provides sufficient justification for legislating against it.
If we extend to being against romanticizing mental/emotional harm too (and I don’t see why we shouldn’t), then we get into arguments over the superhappies from ‘three worlds collide’ and whether its meaningful to experience happiness without sadness.
If women don’t want to interact with Manfolk because they don’t treat women like sentient beings, then this creates social pressure to treat women like sentient beings. OTOH, if women do want to interact with Manfolk, then it would only suck to be a woman if women consistently make choices that make them unhappy, such as the choice to interact with Manfolk. But if women cannot make sensible choices, then they shouldn’t be in egalitarian relationships anyway.
But regardless, your statement conflates ‘Egalitarian relationships’ with ‘treat women like sentient beings’. Adults have dominant relationships over children. Do adults think that children are non-sentient?
Furthermore, you have a really stereotypical view of macho people. I know martial arts people, including one who has been in cagefights, and he is really feminist. (The rest of them are mostly into egalitarian relationships as well, except for a few those who are into consensual BDSM)
OTOH, I’ve only met one person who’s in the army, and he threatened to sexually assault me in my sleep. I’ve heard the hypothosis that 80% of people in the army are sociopaths. But there’s a difference between people who would enjoy ritualised combat in controlled conditions, and people who think that killing sounds like a good career.
I think less than half of the women I’ve dated wanted an egalitarian relationship. And I strongly prefer women who want an egalitarian relationship.