You ‘expect’ to live forever, i.e. consider it more likely than not? Outside of quantum immortality and similar views about other multiverse concepts, that seems to go beyond the evidence. Unless thermodynamics can be circumvented we will almost certainly die for lack of resources, even if we don’t suffer aging or succumb to existential risks or other sudden dooms.
I’ll admit my own ignorance concerning whatever “quantum immortality” and “multiverse” mean.
If this was the TV show “Jeopardy!” and for the Daily Double I was supposed to tell the name of the Law which proves in the textbook that we would almost certainly die for lack of resources, even if we could live forever—if I was really there—I would probably guess “The Second Law?”, and then pray...
I’m no Einstein, but at least I know the textbooks alone do not suffice to carry any inferences made from them.
Do you have something other than a theory to prove that my mind is fundamentally doomed to extinction by “thermodynamics”, and is there really certain “evidence” of that?
Do you have anything including theory to prove that your mind isn’t fundamentally doomed?
There is plenty of evidence for the second law of thermodynamics. Every time we perform an experiment in which entropy is recorded, there’s some chance we notice a decrease. Every time we don’t, it’s evidence that it just doesn’t happen. We’ve done so many experiments that we can accurately predict what the result of a given experiment will be. Every function used is one-to-one. Once the information is out there, there’s nothing we can do to delete it. The universe will only hold so much information.
Once the information is out there, there’s nothing we can do to delete it. The universe will only hold so much information.
Agreed with the former, but not so sure about the latter. There are still some loopholes (for the heat death of the universe) that haven’t been closed. This PhD thesis seems to contain the most recent review of the issues involved.
Michael,
You ‘expect’ to live forever, i.e. consider it more likely than not? Outside of quantum immortality and similar views about other multiverse concepts, that seems to go beyond the evidence. Unless thermodynamics can be circumvented we will almost certainly die for lack of resources, even if we don’t suffer aging or succumb to existential risks or other sudden dooms.
You’re killin’ me, Smalls!
I’ll admit my own ignorance concerning whatever “quantum immortality” and “multiverse” mean.
If this was the TV show “Jeopardy!” and for the Daily Double I was supposed to tell the name of the Law which proves in the textbook that we would almost certainly die for lack of resources, even if we could live forever—if I was really there—I would probably guess “The Second Law?”, and then pray...
I’m no Einstein, but at least I know the textbooks alone do not suffice to carry any inferences made from them.
Do you have something other than a theory to prove that my mind is fundamentally doomed to extinction by “thermodynamics”, and is there really certain “evidence” of that?
Do you have anything including theory to prove that your mind isn’t fundamentally doomed?
There is plenty of evidence for the second law of thermodynamics. Every time we perform an experiment in which entropy is recorded, there’s some chance we notice a decrease. Every time we don’t, it’s evidence that it just doesn’t happen. We’ve done so many experiments that we can accurately predict what the result of a given experiment will be. Every function used is one-to-one. Once the information is out there, there’s nothing we can do to delete it. The universe will only hold so much information.
Agreed with the former, but not so sure about the latter. There are still some loopholes (for the heat death of the universe) that haven’t been closed. This PhD thesis seems to contain the most recent review of the issues involved.