Do you claim that you didn’t make this thread to argue that gwern is wrong?
Yes.
And I correct you ;) My sentence describes your behavior.
No, it described what you believe my internal mental state to be. You assert that you know better than I what that state is, yet you give no argument in support of that position.
You both complain that I don’t make it easy for you to understand me and you claim that I use language that’s too direct.
It would help if you would specify what statement of mine that you’re talking about.
You confuse labeling with obligations. I’m perfectly capable of identifying someone’s behavior as rude or uncivil without claiming that they have an obligation to act otherwise.
I really feel like you are not arguing in good faith. The quote you responded to made no mention of obligations. I feel like you’re arguing in circles, saying that my behavior is rude, but then when I argue that the same logic condemns your actions as rude, you then start with this “I don’t believe in shoulds” stuff.
I also didn’t simply say “Yes” I wrote quite a long paragraph to speak about the sentence and it doesn’t boil down to calling other people uncivil being the primary factor.
[me]Now, as for the statement that you quoted, is it uncivil to point out someone else’s incivility?
[you]Yes. It raises the emotional tension of the discussion in a way that not beneficial.
That’s the entirety of your response to my question. It is not “a long paragraph”, and it does boil down to calling other people uncivil being the primary factor.
Yes.
No, it described what you believe my internal mental state to be. You assert that you know better than I what that state is, yet you give no argument in support of that position.
It would help if you would specify what statement of mine that you’re talking about.
I really feel like you are not arguing in good faith. The quote you responded to made no mention of obligations. I feel like you’re arguing in circles, saying that my behavior is rude, but then when I argue that the same logic condemns your actions as rude, you then start with this “I don’t believe in shoulds” stuff.
That’s the entirety of your response to my question. It is not “a long paragraph”, and it does boil down to calling other people uncivil being the primary factor.