You choose to label some people arrogant for executing a given behavior you dislike. I choose to label a different group of behaviours that I dislike. The statement was clear and direct and in response to the actual thing that is being criticised and not in response to some other thing used as an excuse. I hold in utter contempt the attempt to insinuate that there are sinister or otherwise low status motives that should be considered invalid due to your ability to describe them vaguely and with weasel words.
Another epistemically valid response I could make to the same statement is “Not yet. But if I were to create axes to grind this is the sort of thing that would be well worth the effort to stamp out with with a vengeance. Naive moralizing is a toxic influence.”
OK OK, I admit it. My response was extremely lazy, and in no way productive. I’m going to bow out of this discussion at this point, as I no longer consider myself in an adequate position to think clearly on this topic.
You choose to label some people arrogant for executing a given behavior you dislike. I choose to label a different group of behaviours that I dislike. The statement was clear and direct and in response to the actual thing that is being criticised and not in response to some other thing used as an excuse. I hold in utter contempt the attempt to insinuate that there are sinister or otherwise low status motives that should be considered invalid due to your ability to describe them vaguely and with weasel words.
Another epistemically valid response I could make to the same statement is “Not yet. But if I were to create axes to grind this is the sort of thing that would be well worth the effort to stamp out with with a vengeance. Naive moralizing is a toxic influence.”
OK OK, I admit it. My response was extremely lazy, and in no way productive. I’m going to bow out of this discussion at this point, as I no longer consider myself in an adequate position to think clearly on this topic.