“Scientists do not concern themselves with what philosophers say about science—it is my experience that they are actively contemptuous of such. Yet science goes on. Strange, isn’t it? It’s almost as though the philosophers didn’t know what they were talking about.”
This is a rather tribalistic disciplinary dogmatism, which is really quite out of step with your subsequent claim to universal monological truth (scientists think it works, so who cares what philosophers think) - a clear demonstration of Archimedean rationality...
Do scientists think it works, or does it work? The end result is a model for a particular phenomenon which can be tested for accuracy. When we use a cell phone we are seeing the application of our understanding of electromagnetism, among other things. It’s not scientists saying that science works—it’s just working.
My original objection, to which you responded, although not explicit, was that ‘science going on’ is not sufficient reason for the philosophy of science ‘not knowing what they are talking about’ - the entire post is puerile dogmatism.
My point was not really related to your discussion, I just wanted to clarify on your paraphrasing of “scientists think it works, so who cares what philosophers think.”
I think it is slightly silly to worry about who thinks it works when the fact of the matter is that it works—this is not a point directly against your comments, just a point of clarification in general.
“Scientists do not concern themselves with what philosophers say about science—it is my experience that they are actively contemptuous of such. Yet science goes on. Strange, isn’t it? It’s almost as though the philosophers didn’t know what they were talking about.”
This is a rather tribalistic disciplinary dogmatism, which is really quite out of step with your subsequent claim to universal monological truth (scientists think it works, so who cares what philosophers think) - a clear demonstration of Archimedean rationality...
Do scientists think it works, or does it work? The end result is a model for a particular phenomenon which can be tested for accuracy. When we use a cell phone we are seeing the application of our understanding of electromagnetism, among other things. It’s not scientists saying that science works—it’s just working.
Can you clarify what your point is?
My original objection, to which you responded, although not explicit, was that ‘science going on’ is not sufficient reason for the philosophy of science ‘not knowing what they are talking about’ - the entire post is puerile dogmatism.
My point was not really related to your discussion, I just wanted to clarify on your paraphrasing of “scientists think it works, so who cares what philosophers think.”
I think it is slightly silly to worry about who thinks it works when the fact of the matter is that it works—this is not a point directly against your comments, just a point of clarification in general.