The edit to 53 recently mentioned seems to be here:
“Your wand,” murmured Bellatrix, “I took it from the Potters’ house and hid it, my lord… under the tombstone to the right of your father’s grave… will you kill me, now, if that was all you wished of me… I think I must have always wanted you to be the one to kill me… but I can’t remember now, it must have been a happy thought...”
A very disappointing change for me. The previous version had seemingly been a very major clue—now that clue is nullified and replaced with the standard and uninteresting “some Death Eater salvaged Voldemort’s wand from the Potters’ House” which is the excuse every HP fanfic out there gives to cover this obvious plot hole by Rowling…
Also does anyone think that Bellatrix could have stood over Harry’s crib and not finished the task that Voldemort seemed to have wanted accomplished?
Also does anyone think that Bellatrix could have stood over Harry’s crib and not finished the task that Voldemort seemed to have wanted accomplished?
We do not yet know the task Voldemort wanted accomplished that day in HPMOR. For all we know it could have already been completed when Bellatrix salvaged the wand.
Yeah, yeah, but Bellatrix knew about it? But Bellatrix had been ordered to wait, retrieve the wand if anything interesting happened to Voldemort, and not interact otherwise with other enemy survivors? But Bellatrix didn’t burn down the whole Muggle town when she saw Voldemort’s burned body?
The fact remains that what seemed to me an intentional clue, is now replaced for all intends and purposes by what seems to me an unintentional plot-hole. I don’t have to like it.
Firstly, if the wording was changed to nullify a clue, then it was probably a false clue to begin with, and he changed it so that it wouldn’t cause confusion.
Secondly, why do people assume that whichever Death Eater took the wand showed up while Harry was still sitting in his crib? I hardly think that Hagrid spent a great deal of time—or any, really—searching through the rubble for Voldemort’s wand. It’s completely reasonable that he could have shown up, taken Harry, and only then was the wand retrieved.
If Bellatrix in canon refused to believe that Voldemort was dead, it’s quite likely that this Bellatrix would have too, regardless of whether a “burnt hulk” of a body was there or not.
Firstly, if the wording was changed to nullify a clue, then it was probably a false clue to begin with, and he changed it so that it wouldn’t cause confusion.
That doesn’t make it less disappointing; also I think it’s actually more likely that it used to be a real clue, but the author changed his mind about how the story went—that’s also disappointing.
There’s the third possibility, that it used to be a real clue, and it is still relevant in how the story is going to go; but that Harry himself, the character, shouldn’t have heard about it so early, or he’d wonder inappropriately over it.
Secondly, why do people assume that whichever Death Eater took the wand showed up while Harry was still sitting in his crib? I hardly think that Hagrid spent a great deal of time—or any, really—searching through the rubble for Voldemort’s wand.
I’m having trouble imagining that in a HPMoRVerse with an actual competent Dumbledore, Hagrid went alone to retrieve baby Harry.
That doesn’t make it less disappointing; also I think it’s actually more likely that it used to be a real clue, but the author changed his mind about how the story went—that’s also disappointing.
There’s the third possibility, that it used to be a real clue, and it is still relevant in how the story is going to go; but that Harry himself, the character, shouldn’t have heard about it so early, or he’d wonder inappropriately over it.
Alright, granted, those are possibilities. I’m not certain that you’re correct, but they are valid.
I’m having trouble imagining that in a HPMoRVerse with an actual competent Dumbledore, Hagrid went alone to retrieve baby Harry.
Hm. Okay, I understand that, but I would not expect anyone, really, to spend a great deal of time searching through the rubble when Harry still needs to be taken care of. Yes, they could Summon it (assuming it was Summon-able) but only if they were looking for it specifically, if they thought it wasn’t destroyed in the explosion, etc.
“My… Lord… I went where you said to await you, but you did not come… I looked for you but I could not find you… you are alive...”
became this:
“My… Lord… I waited for you but you did not come… I looked for you but I could not find you… you are alive...”
and this:
“Your wand,” murmured Bellatrix, “I hid it in the graveyard, my lord, before I left… under the tombstone to the right of your father’s grave...
became this:
“Your wand,” murmured Bellatrix, “I took it from the Potters’ house and hid it, my lord… under the tombstone to the right of your father’s grave…
In short, the original passage seemed to indicate that on the night of Godric’s Hollow Bellatrix had been sent to a graveyard carrying Voldemort’s wand. The current passage indicates that she took Voldemort’s wand from the Potters’ House, and that she hadn’t been given the wand nor ordered to any graveyard to await for him.
The edit to 53 recently mentioned seems to be here:
A very disappointing change for me. The previous version had seemingly been a very major clue—now that clue is nullified and replaced with the standard and uninteresting “some Death Eater salvaged Voldemort’s wand from the Potters’ House” which is the excuse every HP fanfic out there gives to cover this obvious plot hole by Rowling…
Also does anyone think that Bellatrix could have stood over Harry’s crib and not finished the task that Voldemort seemed to have wanted accomplished?
We do not yet know the task Voldemort wanted accomplished that day in HPMOR. For all we know it could have already been completed when Bellatrix salvaged the wand.
Yeah, yeah, but Bellatrix knew about it? But Bellatrix had been ordered to wait, retrieve the wand if anything interesting happened to Voldemort, and not interact otherwise with other enemy survivors? But Bellatrix didn’t burn down the whole Muggle town when she saw Voldemort’s burned body?
The fact remains that what seemed to me an intentional clue, is now replaced for all intends and purposes by what seems to me an unintentional plot-hole. I don’t have to like it.
Firstly, if the wording was changed to nullify a clue, then it was probably a false clue to begin with, and he changed it so that it wouldn’t cause confusion.
Secondly, why do people assume that whichever Death Eater took the wand showed up while Harry was still sitting in his crib? I hardly think that Hagrid spent a great deal of time—or any, really—searching through the rubble for Voldemort’s wand. It’s completely reasonable that he could have shown up, taken Harry, and only then was the wand retrieved.
If Bellatrix in canon refused to believe that Voldemort was dead, it’s quite likely that this Bellatrix would have too, regardless of whether a “burnt hulk” of a body was there or not.
That doesn’t make it less disappointing; also I think it’s actually more likely that it used to be a real clue, but the author changed his mind about how the story went—that’s also disappointing.
There’s the third possibility, that it used to be a real clue, and it is still relevant in how the story is going to go; but that Harry himself, the character, shouldn’t have heard about it so early, or he’d wonder inappropriately over it.
I’m having trouble imagining that in a HPMoRVerse with an actual competent Dumbledore, Hagrid went alone to retrieve baby Harry.
Alright, granted, those are possibilities. I’m not certain that you’re correct, but they are valid.
Hm. Okay, I understand that, but I would not expect anyone, really, to spend a great deal of time searching through the rubble when Harry still needs to be taken care of. Yes, they could Summon it (assuming it was Summon-able) but only if they were looking for it specifically, if they thought it wasn’t destroyed in the explosion, etc.
What was the original wording?
Two passages I see changed so far:
became this:
and this:
became this:
In short, the original passage seemed to indicate that on the night of Godric’s Hollow Bellatrix had been sent to a graveyard carrying Voldemort’s wand. The current passage indicates that she took Voldemort’s wand from the Potters’ House, and that she hadn’t been given the wand nor ordered to any graveyard to await for him.
I don’t have any saved copy, but clear memory of the bolded part not being there. I think the wording is otherwise identical.