By people who are in my ingroup? Certainly. People who I see as “them” (outgroup) can rage at me all they want. Overall this one seems weak.
your parents would be so very disappointed with you
It is very interesting how powerful this one still seems to be in my mind. I suspect I would have major psychological difficulties dealing with immortality for all or the abolishment of privacy.
your parents would be so very disappointed with you
Yes. Don’t know about the other two, but seeking the approval of various authority figures as they appear in my mind, consciously or not, is definitely one of my most frequent motivations when I act altruistically. Not too troubled about privacy or immortality, though; I view both as more or less inevitable if a half-decent singularity does come, unless it’s incredibly weird, not just Eliezer-level weird. That is, I want to want both, and don’t currently worry too much as to whether I want either one in my heart of hearts.
Not too troubled about privacy or immortality, though; I view both as more or less inevitable if a half-decent singularity does come, unless it’s incredibly weird, not just Eliezer-level weird. That is, I want to want both, and don’t currently worry too much as to whether I want either one in my heart of hearts.
The thing is that as awful as this sounds authority figures you care about dying is a source of freedom for people. I would never want my parents to die so I have say more “freedom” in defining my morality (or perhaps in ways my model of them in my head would disapprove of), but we would be locked into our socially defined roles much more than we are today.
Also an erosion of privacy makes normative feedback from your social group basically instant, people are pretty conformist, so a reduction of privacy means society wide greater conforming to social norms.
Which obviously can be a good thing by say much reducing murder or rape, but again is pretty much a big step towards say political totalitarianism and the domination of one human value system (that happens to be favoured by such an envrionment or happens by pure chance to be the dominant one when the transition happens) over others.
By people who are in my ingroup? Certainly. People who I see as “them” (outgroup) can rage at me all they want. Overall this one seems weak.
It is very interesting how powerful this one still seems to be in my mind. I suspect I would have major psychological difficulties dealing with immortality for all or the abolishment of privacy.
This one is very strong too.
Yes. Don’t know about the other two, but seeking the approval of various authority figures as they appear in my mind, consciously or not, is definitely one of my most frequent motivations when I act altruistically.
Not too troubled about privacy or immortality, though; I view both as more or less inevitable if a half-decent singularity does come, unless it’s incredibly weird, not just Eliezer-level weird. That is, I want to want both, and don’t currently worry too much as to whether I want either one in my heart of hearts.
The thing is that as awful as this sounds authority figures you care about dying is a source of freedom for people. I would never want my parents to die so I have say more “freedom” in defining my morality (or perhaps in ways my model of them in my head would disapprove of), but we would be locked into our socially defined roles much more than we are today.
Also an erosion of privacy makes normative feedback from your social group basically instant, people are pretty conformist, so a reduction of privacy means society wide greater conforming to social norms.
Which obviously can be a good thing by say much reducing murder or rape, but again is pretty much a big step towards say political totalitarianism and the domination of one human value system (that happens to be favoured by such an envrionment or happens by pure chance to be the dominant one when the transition happens) over others.
...thanks. I think.