Is it a norm on Less Wrong that there is not a “grace period” to make an edit within a few seconds after posting and before anyone has replied, to make minor corrections or to add something that the user forgot to say and just realized after submitting the comment?
(Also, did I really deserve −8 karma for my opinions on this issue, or is it just a matter of −2 not seeming so bad when you do it four times?)
Is it a norm on Less Wrong that there is not a “grace period” to make an edit within a few seconds after posting and before anyone has replied, to make minor corrections or to add something that the user forgot to say and just realized after submitting the comment?
I haven’t downvoted any of your posts, but it need not be just your opinions—it may very well be the way you express them, either in terms of expressed hostility, or in terms of confusion/lack of clarity.
e.g. you’ve still not explained the meaning of the ‘should’ in “He made his decision—so he should live with it.” .
But frankly, I’d wager it’s just the constant aura of hostility you seem to exude towards the rest of us.
My perception was that the “retraction” was an attempt to reverse the effect of the original author’s note. This is obviously not actually possible. While EY probably knows this, I think he is overestimating the actual benefit of the retraction (and of the related decision to suppress discussion derived from that information in these threads).
The people the retraction is most likely to [arguably] benefit are people who started reading after it was removed and people who were reading it at the time but were inattentive to the author’s note and any discussion that happened in the intervening period. My assumption is that there are not actually very many people fitting that description participating in these threads. This is weighed against by the cost of imposing rot13 on all discussion derived from that information and arbitrary downvote penalties on people who are unaware of the rule (as well as acting as the spark that sets off arguments like this).
I also think that it’s possible that HPMOR discussion would be better served by a conventional forum rather than the reddit engine, as some others have mentioned, and that this could mitigate the spoiler problem, but that’s mostly unrelated.
So mostly you object to being told to go out of your way while discussing something you enjoy so that others can enjoy it the way the person who made the thing your discussing intended?
May I put those words in your mouth or should I wait for the foot to come out?
Is it a norm on Less Wrong that there is not a “grace period” to make an edit within a few seconds after posting and before anyone has replied, to make minor corrections or to add something that the user forgot to say and just realized after submitting the comment?
I’m not certain of what you’re asking, here, but I just found out that you can delete a post if no one has responded to it yet. So in case that’s what you were after, there’s that.
He said “responding to unmarked edit” as though there was something wrong with failing to mark a simple addition made 10 seconds after the original post. I was confused, since it was not my experience that anyone considered this a problem anywhere.
Oh. I edit mine when I make a mistake that makes them mean something else. Or when someone prompts me to.
But if you’re adding information then it’s useful to you to mark that you added something. That way the people that already pounced on your post notice there’s something new there while they’re pounding Refresh to see if you’ve responded to them.
Is it a norm on Less Wrong that there is not a “grace period” to make an edit within a few seconds after posting and before anyone has replied, to make minor corrections or to add something that the user forgot to say and just realized after submitting the comment?
(Also, did I really deserve −8 karma for my opinions on this issue, or is it just a matter of −2 not seeming so bad when you do it four times?)
No
I haven’t downvoted any of your posts, but it need not be just your opinions—it may very well be the way you express them, either in terms of expressed hostility, or in terms of confusion/lack of clarity.
e.g. you’ve still not explained the meaning of the ‘should’ in “He made his decision—so he should live with it.” .
But frankly, I’d wager it’s just the constant aura of hostility you seem to exude towards the rest of us.
My perception was that the “retraction” was an attempt to reverse the effect of the original author’s note. This is obviously not actually possible. While EY probably knows this, I think he is overestimating the actual benefit of the retraction (and of the related decision to suppress discussion derived from that information in these threads).
The people the retraction is most likely to [arguably] benefit are people who started reading after it was removed and people who were reading it at the time but were inattentive to the author’s note and any discussion that happened in the intervening period. My assumption is that there are not actually very many people fitting that description participating in these threads. This is weighed against by the cost of imposing rot13 on all discussion derived from that information and arbitrary downvote penalties on people who are unaware of the rule (as well as acting as the spark that sets off arguments like this).
I also think that it’s possible that HPMOR discussion would be better served by a conventional forum rather than the reddit engine, as some others have mentioned, and that this could mitigate the spoiler problem, but that’s mostly unrelated.
So mostly you object to being told to go out of your way while discussing something you enjoy so that others can enjoy it the way the person who made the thing your discussing intended?
May I put those words in your mouth or should I wait for the foot to come out?
I’m not certain of what you’re asking, here, but I just found out that you can delete a post if no one has responded to it yet. So in case that’s what you were after, there’s that.
He said “responding to unmarked edit” as though there was something wrong with failing to mark a simple addition made 10 seconds after the original post. I was confused, since it was not my experience that anyone considered this a problem anywhere.
Oh. I edit mine when I make a mistake that makes them mean something else. Or when someone prompts me to.
But if you’re adding information then it’s useful to you to mark that you added something. That way the people that already pounced on your post notice there’s something new there while they’re pounding Refresh to see if you’ve responded to them.