Oh, it’s just a fairly straightforward notion that considering my limited resources, I should pursue eternal goals rather than any personal interests, but that personal interests are constantly thwarting my effort to pursue eternal goals. Fairly standard akrasia stuff, I guess I could have made that more clear.
In local terminology, “morality” refers to the meaningful kind of “eternal goals”, and some notions of “eternal goals” are seen as confusion, so your original statement remain unclear.
I don’t wish to reveal that “more important value”, because I think it would be very distracting
From this alone I expect that you have something to change your mind about. Don’t avoid discussing it, or at least have a plan for developing new epistemic tools. :-)
it’s just a value that if revealed would derail any and all threads
By saying that in a community as insatiably curious as LW you now have dozens of people (including me) persistently wondering what the heck it could be.
I think you’re maybe making it a lot worse by being deliberately coy? If you actually wanted to avoid derailing a thread, wink-nudge-hint wasn’t the way to go. I’m not even sure why it was necessary to mention your secret objectionable value at all if you truly didn’t want to talk about it.
The reason I mentioned epistemic tools is that it’s possible to be wrong about what your own values are, but people sometimes don’t easily accept this idea. Where you expect people finding your value objectionable, I expect people seeing you as mistaken about the fact of this value actually being your own. You believe it is, but it’s probably not (based on what indirect evidence you revealed).
Oh, it’s just a fairly straightforward notion that considering my limited resources, I should pursue eternal goals rather than any personal interests, but that personal interests are constantly thwarting my effort to pursue eternal goals. Fairly standard akrasia stuff, I guess I could have made that more clear.
In local terminology, “morality” refers to the meaningful kind of “eternal goals”, and some notions of “eternal goals” are seen as confusion, so your original statement remain unclear.
From this alone I expect that you have something to change your mind about. Don’t avoid discussing it, or at least have a plan for developing new epistemic tools. :-)
But now I’m curious :(
By saying that in a community as insatiably curious as LW you now have dozens of people (including me) persistently wondering what the heck it could be.
:)
p=.65 it’s either political or sexual in nature.
Let’s find a bookmaker who will accept bets on my secret value. I’ll take 10% and we can resolve all issues. Bets above 100$ only please.
I think you’re maybe making it a lot worse by being deliberately coy? If you actually wanted to avoid derailing a thread, wink-nudge-hint wasn’t the way to go. I’m not even sure why it was necessary to mention your secret objectionable value at all if you truly didn’t want to talk about it.
Oh, of course I am. I’ve already derailed this with my momentary lapse in judgment, though, so I don’t see any harm in continuing to respond.
If you look closely, you’ll notice that it was your relentless evasiveness rather than the belief itself which has caused that derailment.
The reason I mentioned epistemic tools is that it’s possible to be wrong about what your own values are, but people sometimes don’t easily accept this idea. Where you expect people finding your value objectionable, I expect people seeing you as mistaken about the fact of this value actually being your own. You believe it is, but it’s probably not (based on what indirect evidence you revealed).
You would be surprised, maybe… If you don’t want to derail a public thread, would you send me a private message to discuss this?