1: The Bottom Line.
since Yeishu probably genuinely believed he would go to Heaven, he doesn’t deserve more honor than John Perry
2: Eliezer, whose bias will this article help overcome? Seriously?
Christians won’t accept your premise that Jesus died forever. Atheists presumably don’t honor him. Muslims honor him as a prophet, and presumably (many islamic ‘fundamentalists’) don’t honor atheist victims of ‘jihad*’. ‘The church of Judea[sic]’ never had much affinity with Jesus to begin with, & Everyone else who uses the ‘Jesus was a great moral teacher’ schtick can be beaten into submission with Christianity’s so-called unintended consequences. Who is left to persuade?
3: I 2nd Nigel, & I had thought the post had made the point with the John Perry anecdote. Much of the rest feels gratuitous. (& will tend to fill the comments w/ content-lite responses.)
Nitpicking: I don’t believe Muslims would fail to be humbled by such a man. A suicide bomber knows he is taking the easy way out of a life where he expects to succumb to sin (suicide bombers are usually notorious sinners [citation needed, I don’t remember where I read that]) by taking a path he was told would guarrantee him a place in Paradise (more importantly, away from Hell). To the likes of him, a man who does what Perry did, with the beliefs with which he did it, commands respect. Though I am purely speculating here: if those alledged Muslims are anything like, say, Fred Phelps, there is no telling whether they would adopt this perspective.
More importantly, while “Jesus dying forever” is not a valid hypothesis for them, you seem to be underestimating a Christian’s Willing Suspension Of Belief For The Sake Of Speculation.
It’s not necessarily solely for the purpose of overcoming bias. He’s also telling the truth and letting us see things in a different light.
I think he’s saying that atheists should (to a certain extent) honour him, and Christians should believe that he died forever. I’m not familiar with the other religions, but just because someone believes something now, doesn’t mean that that will never change. Isn’t the whole point of this blog to spread truth around?
1: The Bottom Line. since Yeishu probably genuinely believed he would go to Heaven, he doesn’t deserve more honor than John Perry
2: Eliezer, whose bias will this article help overcome? Seriously?
Christians won’t accept your premise that Jesus died forever. Atheists presumably don’t honor him. Muslims honor him as a prophet, and presumably (many islamic ‘fundamentalists’) don’t honor atheist victims of ‘jihad*’. ‘The church of Judea[sic]’ never had much affinity with Jesus to begin with, & Everyone else who uses the ‘Jesus was a great moral teacher’ schtick can be beaten into submission with Christianity’s so-called unintended consequences. Who is left to persuade?
3: I 2nd Nigel, & I had thought the post had made the point with the John Perry anecdote. Much of the rest feels gratuitous. (& will tend to fill the comments w/ content-lite responses.)
Nitpicking: I don’t believe Muslims would fail to be humbled by such a man. A suicide bomber knows he is taking the easy way out of a life where he expects to succumb to sin (suicide bombers are usually notorious sinners [citation needed, I don’t remember where I read that]) by taking a path he was told would guarrantee him a place in Paradise (more importantly, away from Hell). To the likes of him, a man who does what Perry did, with the beliefs with which he did it, commands respect. Though I am purely speculating here: if those alledged Muslims are anything like, say, Fred Phelps, there is no telling whether they would adopt this perspective.
More importantly, while “Jesus dying forever” is not a valid hypothesis for them, you seem to be underestimating a Christian’s Willing Suspension Of Belief For The Sake Of Speculation.
It’s not necessarily solely for the purpose of overcoming bias. He’s also telling the truth and letting us see things in a different light.
I think he’s saying that atheists should (to a certain extent) honour him, and Christians should believe that he died forever. I’m not familiar with the other religions, but just because someone believes something now, doesn’t mean that that will never change. Isn’t the whole point of this blog to spread truth around?