Homestuck. Four and a half thousand pages of it. I’m wondering if Andrew Hussie has somehow worked out how to make a manic phase last six years. I need to go back and reread it, when I have way too much time on my hands.
I’ve actually been wondering about the value of fictional evidence. Particularly reading a pile of Hitchens book reviews, wherein he strongly advocates good fiction for its power to explore and teach you how humans work. Off the top of my head I can think of more accurate methods, but stories are natural to humans so may well be a much more powerful vector than popularisations of psychological research. I’m not entirely convinced by the Hitchens line but was surprised to see him pushing it so vehemently.
It’s like Andrew Hussie has a list of the things I like, and decided to make to make something perfect with all of them included. The fandom is a bit crazy for me, but I think Homestuck is freakishly well written considering the pace that the pages come out. His characters are incredible, the little details of his descriptions are gems, and the art is nice to look at too. I know people who refuse to read it because they’ve only been exposed to it via over-zealous fans of the slash-yaoi shipping variety (not all yaoi shippers are crazy, but a lot of crazy fans are yaoi shippers), but it’s really a clever and moving piece of unique artwork. For anyone interested in it, I would actually suggest reading Problem Sleuth first though. Ignore the earlier works until you have an appreciation for Hussie.
So, after some of the more recent updates, I was trying to figure out where Dirk’s Auto-Responder falls on the Friendly/Unfriendly AI spectrum, but then it occured to me that he’s more of a non-destructive mental upload that an artificial intelligence.
(I am assuming that comics can go here as well)
Neil Gaiman’s “The Sandman” is incredibly well written, and also has characters with a positive spin on immortality. Beautiful art, great story, it’s a gem.
“The Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer” is a manga with a standard plot (group of mostly teens with magical powers must save the world) which subverts your expectations in a big way. If you like manga, anime, or just fantasy adventure stories, you will absolutely love this.
“The Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer” is a manga with a standard plot (group of mostly teens with magical powers must save the world) which subverts your expectations in a big way.
It’s old school, but Haruki Murakami’s work is pretty much the best fiction I’ve read since American Gods. The Wind-up Bird Chronicle has a pretty good translation, and once you’ve read that the callbacks in Haibane Renmei start making more sense. Also 1Q84 (Q = kyuu = 9) is out, but I haven’t read it yet.
David D. Friedman has written a bunch of blog posts promoting his novels Harald and Salamander. Both of these significantly draw on economic concepts, although in very different ways. Harald is a historical novel, albeit one which is set in a fictional universe. Salamander (available in a Kindle version) is especially interesting in that it realistically portrays both a form of magic and characters conducting empirical research to extend their magical abilities.
Rebecca Newberger Goldstein’s “36 Arguments for the Existence of God”. Easily one of my top-10 favorite books ever. Beautifully written and hilarious (a particularly difficult combo for an author to pull of, IMO), a non-linear, recursive loop through the lives of several atheist characters who are inextricably tied to religion in one way or another. The author has quite an interesting life history: philosopher, biographer of Gödel and Spinoza, famous novelist, currently married to Stephen Pinker, among other things.
I’m reading some of the Nebula/Hugo award-winning SF novels of (mostly) the last few years; so in the last couple of months I read (lightly plot-spoiling, but not too bad):
Bacigalupi’s The Windup Girl—a ‘biopunk’ novel, set in 23rd century Bangkok, in a world where a couple of mega-corps (mega-Monsanto’s) have screwed the whole eco-system, and made the world dependent on their bio-engineered calories (where are very hard to come by). The story is interesting, switches between the perspectives of different sides, including the one of a come-alive Japanese love doll. While I liked that, the whole tech/bio background did seem very improbable. Still, liked the book
Scalzi’s Old Man’s War series. There are 4 books—it starts with a bunch of old people that undergo some rejuvenation treatment, and end up in a whole lot of wars with alien races all over the reachable universe. The rest of the books discuss various aspects of the wars, the people involved, colonization, etc. Overall, I Iiked the stories, but I did not like the melodrama Scalzi put in at various places. And there were too many story lines (secondary, but still) that never got resolved. (e.g., the werewolfs). Tech-wise, of course everything is pretty advanced—but then his weird limitations, very convenient for the plot...
Haldeman’s Forever War (1974) is somewhat of a granddaddy to Old Man’s War, following some guy’s interstellar military career; it’s inspired by the writer’s Vietnam experiences. Overall, enjoyable (dated fairly well, although some of the ‘future tech’ is pretty common today...).
Just started with Connie Willis’ Blackout); about a bunch of future historians time-traveling to various episodes in World War II. So far, the hints to the concepts behind time-travel seem a bit...questionable, but let’s see what’s still to come...
It bothered me at first, but I think it’s about greenhouse gas emission. For example, methane is another power source, with legal restrictions depending on the “cleanliness” of the gas when burnt. I don’t remember whether biofuels are still used at the time of the story.
I’m hesitant to recommend this, since I’m sure everyone has heard it/likely started reading it when they were young adults, like I did, but I thought Inheritance (The final book in the series that spawned from Eragon, if you didn’t know) was a pretty good ending to the series. Pretty light reading, and not too insightful, but very good, if you like fantasy type books (as is the entire series, of course).
At the end, (Not really a spoiler, don’t worry) there was a brief discussion about immortality, which was the only time an LW trope was really touched on. I was really hoping he would come out and take a strong pro-immortality stance, but he didn’t really. It was something to the effect of “I wouldn’t want to keep living after 2-3 thousand years”.
I read the first of these books shortly after it came it out, not realizing when I picked it up that the author was only fifteen, and… it was appallingly badly written. Every character had the same, extremely stilted voice. I never considered finishing the series. (I’ve also never been more shocked to see a book get picked up by Hollywood.)
Do you feel the books got better over time, such that I should reconsider that decision, or did you actually think Eragon was good, in which case I’ll just leave it at de gustibus non est disputandum?
Don’t really know what to suggest. I was never bothered by that, but I was younger when I read the first ones, and I’m always very good at suspending disbelief and ignoring things like that for fictional works. If you didn’t like the first three, I wouldn’t suggest trying to read the third.
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Homestuck. Four and a half thousand pages of it. I’m wondering if Andrew Hussie has somehow worked out how to make a manic phase last six years. I need to go back and reread it, when I have way too much time on my hands.
And the Brainbent AU, which is just heartwarming.
This, this, a thousand times this. Homestuck gave me so much insight into human relationships merely by quadrupling my romantic vocabulary.
I’ve actually been wondering about the value of fictional evidence. Particularly reading a pile of Hitchens book reviews, wherein he strongly advocates good fiction for its power to explore and teach you how humans work. Off the top of my head I can think of more accurate methods, but stories are natural to humans so may well be a much more powerful vector than popularisations of psychological research. I’m not entirely convinced by the Hitchens line but was surprised to see him pushing it so vehemently.
Edit: Wei Dai addressed this point a couple of years ago, with Fictional Evidence vs Fictional Insight.
It’s like Andrew Hussie has a list of the things I like, and decided to make to make something perfect with all of them included. The fandom is a bit crazy for me, but I think Homestuck is freakishly well written considering the pace that the pages come out. His characters are incredible, the little details of his descriptions are gems, and the art is nice to look at too. I know people who refuse to read it because they’ve only been exposed to it via over-zealous fans of the slash-yaoi shipping variety (not all yaoi shippers are crazy, but a lot of crazy fans are yaoi shippers), but it’s really a clever and moving piece of unique artwork. For anyone interested in it, I would actually suggest reading Problem Sleuth first though. Ignore the earlier works until you have an appreciation for Hussie.
So, after some of the more recent updates, I was trying to figure out where Dirk’s Auto-Responder falls on the Friendly/Unfriendly AI spectrum, but then it occured to me that he’s more of a non-destructive mental upload that an artificial intelligence.
At least as friendly as any given human.
(I am assuming that comics can go here as well) Neil Gaiman’s “The Sandman” is incredibly well written, and also has characters with a positive spin on immortality. Beautiful art, great story, it’s a gem. “The Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer” is a manga with a standard plot (group of mostly teens with magical powers must save the world) which subverts your expectations in a big way. If you like manga, anime, or just fantasy adventure stories, you will absolutely love this.
The Japanese stuff goes in the otaku saakuru.
(Although to be fair, it said “Anime thread” when your comment was posted.)
It’s old school, but Haruki Murakami’s work is pretty much the best fiction I’ve read since American Gods. The Wind-up Bird Chronicle has a pretty good translation, and once you’ve read that the callbacks in Haibane Renmei start making more sense. Also 1Q84 (Q = kyuu = 9) is out, but I haven’t read it yet.
David D. Friedman has written a bunch of blog posts promoting his novels Harald and Salamander. Both of these significantly draw on economic concepts, although in very different ways. Harald is a historical novel, albeit one which is set in a fictional universe. Salamander (available in a Kindle version) is especially interesting in that it realistically portrays both a form of magic and characters conducting empirical research to extend their magical abilities.
Rebecca Newberger Goldstein’s “36 Arguments for the Existence of God”. Easily one of my top-10 favorite books ever. Beautifully written and hilarious (a particularly difficult combo for an author to pull of, IMO), a non-linear, recursive loop through the lives of several atheist characters who are inextricably tied to religion in one way or another. The author has quite an interesting life history: philosopher, biographer of Gödel and Spinoza, famous novelist, currently married to Stephen Pinker, among other things.
I’m reading some of the Nebula/Hugo award-winning SF novels of (mostly) the last few years; so in the last couple of months I read (lightly plot-spoiling, but not too bad):
Bacigalupi’s The Windup Girl—a ‘biopunk’ novel, set in 23rd century Bangkok, in a world where a couple of mega-corps (mega-Monsanto’s) have screwed the whole eco-system, and made the world dependent on their bio-engineered calories (where are very hard to come by). The story is interesting, switches between the perspectives of different sides, including the one of a come-alive Japanese love doll. While I liked that, the whole tech/bio background did seem very improbable. Still, liked the book
Scalzi’s Old Man’s War series. There are 4 books—it starts with a bunch of old people that undergo some rejuvenation treatment, and end up in a whole lot of wars with alien races all over the reachable universe. The rest of the books discuss various aspects of the wars, the people involved, colonization, etc. Overall, I Iiked the stories, but I did not like the melodrama Scalzi put in at various places. And there were too many story lines (secondary, but still) that never got resolved. (e.g., the werewolfs). Tech-wise, of course everything is pretty advanced—but then his weird limitations, very convenient for the plot...
Haldeman’s Forever War (1974) is somewhat of a granddaddy to Old Man’s War, following some guy’s interstellar military career; it’s inspired by the writer’s Vietnam experiences. Overall, enjoyable (dated fairly well, although some of the ‘future tech’ is pretty common today...).
Just started with Connie Willis’ Blackout); about a bunch of future historians time-traveling to various episodes in World War II. So far, the hints to the concepts behind time-travel seem a bit...questionable, but let’s see what’s still to come...
NB on The Windup Girl—it’s an excellent book, but if graphic depictions of sexual abuse aren’t your cup of tea, you may want to pass on it.
I read a story set in that world, and it makes me crazy that they’re using muscle power rather than burning the food.
It bothered me at first, but I think it’s about greenhouse gas emission. For example, methane is another power source, with legal restrictions depending on the “cleanliness” of the gas when burnt. I don’t remember whether biofuels are still used at the time of the story.
That still doesn’t make sense—if the food stocks were created without mining carbon from oil or coal, then they’re carbon-neutral.
I’m hesitant to recommend this, since I’m sure everyone has heard it/likely started reading it when they were young adults, like I did, but I thought Inheritance (The final book in the series that spawned from Eragon, if you didn’t know) was a pretty good ending to the series. Pretty light reading, and not too insightful, but very good, if you like fantasy type books (as is the entire series, of course).
At the end, (Not really a spoiler, don’t worry) there was a brief discussion about immortality, which was the only time an LW trope was really touched on. I was really hoping he would come out and take a strong pro-immortality stance, but he didn’t really. It was something to the effect of “I wouldn’t want to keep living after 2-3 thousand years”.
I’m curious...
I read the first of these books shortly after it came it out, not realizing when I picked it up that the author was only fifteen, and… it was appallingly badly written. Every character had the same, extremely stilted voice. I never considered finishing the series. (I’ve also never been more shocked to see a book get picked up by Hollywood.)
Do you feel the books got better over time, such that I should reconsider that decision, or did you actually think Eragon was good, in which case I’ll just leave it at de gustibus non est disputandum?
Don’t really know what to suggest. I was never bothered by that, but I was younger when I read the first ones, and I’m always very good at suspending disbelief and ignoring things like that for fictional works. If you didn’t like the first three, I wouldn’t suggest trying to read the third.