GPT slightly messed up the paragraph order reconstructing from screens of a deleted EA Forums post. Anecdotally, the most common counterargument I’ve encountered in orthodox Rat circles is “Why don’t we see them?” because they didn’t know our galaxy was mostly invisible. (This is the usual level of counterargument and why my post is a bit “C’mon, you’re better than this, Joe Rogan has done more homework here” dunky.) They might not be doing Dyson swarms (as we’re massively overconfident about what alien colonisation would look like based on flimsy assumptions that could be wrong e.g. EMs, how early relativistic travel comes in the tech tree, totally unknown game-theoretic/political landscape), but if they are, they could have a galactic empire of Dyson swarms beyond the observational horizon of the Orion Arm. (We’re in the Outer Rim.)
Due to anthropics, we do not find ourselves under the thumb of a grabby civ that destroys life-bearing panspermia sibling planets to make way for a hyperspace bypass, but rather a non-grabby civ that demonstrates at least some consideration (quarantine, wildlife preserve, integration into a mature ecosystem) for emerging sapients.
Didn’t follow. If they’re doing dyson swarms, why wouldn’t the dyson swarms be everywhere by now.
GPT slightly messed up the paragraph order reconstructing from screens of a deleted EA Forums post. Anecdotally, the most common counterargument I’ve encountered in orthodox Rat circles is “Why don’t we see them?” because they didn’t know our galaxy was mostly invisible. (This is the usual level of counterargument and why my post is a bit “C’mon, you’re better than this, Joe Rogan has done more homework here” dunky.) They might not be doing Dyson swarms (as we’re massively overconfident about what alien colonisation would look like based on flimsy assumptions that could be wrong e.g. EMs, how early relativistic travel comes in the tech tree, totally unknown game-theoretic/political landscape), but if they are, they could have a galactic empire of Dyson swarms beyond the observational horizon of the Orion Arm. (We’re in the Outer Rim.)
Due to anthropics, we do not find ourselves under the thumb of a grabby civ that destroys life-bearing panspermia sibling planets to make way for a hyperspace bypass, but rather a non-grabby civ that demonstrates at least some consideration (quarantine, wildlife preserve, integration into a mature ecosystem) for emerging sapients.