I think that the official position of the Church is that deliberately ejaculating somewhere other than into your wife’s vagina is bad, no matter where that is.
Which church, precisely? (It wasn’t, for example, in the one I was raised in.)
You mean vaginal sex with someone you weren’t yet married to wasn’t OK but anal sex in the same circumstance was?
No, saddlebacking was not considered OK. I was specifically replying to your quote about deliberately ejaculating somewhere other than into your wife’s vagina being bad. There are all sorts of potential ejaculations that are not outlawed by my church but are outlawed by that rule. For example there was no explicit rules forbidding masturbation or oral sex (the latter within marriage). Nor any rules forbidding ejaculation into sample containers at a medical clinic for the purpose of IVF, for that matter.
Now that I think about it, I can’t remember Catholics explicitly forbidding oral sex, either, though I can’t recall them endorsing it either (unlike vaginal sex during the woman’s infertile days), so I’m assuming they aren’t technically OK with it. They do clearly forbid IVF (which is one of the zillion reasons why Angels and Demons by Dan Brown is ridiculous), though, since many of them are kind-of sort-of reasonable, I wouldn’t expect that to make much of a fuss about semen analyses (given that the pleasure of the orgasm isn’t the point, and figuring out whether you haven’t had a baby yet because of bad luck or because you’re sterile is).
Which church, precisely? (It wasn’t, for example, in the one I was raised in.)
Edited it in.
You mean vaginal sex with someone you weren’t yet married to wasn’t OK but anal sex in the same circumstance was?
No, saddlebacking was not considered OK. I was specifically replying to your quote about deliberately ejaculating somewhere other than into your wife’s vagina being bad. There are all sorts of potential ejaculations that are not outlawed by my church but are outlawed by that rule. For example there was no explicit rules forbidding masturbation or oral sex (the latter within marriage). Nor any rules forbidding ejaculation into sample containers at a medical clinic for the purpose of IVF, for that matter.
Now that I think about it, I can’t remember Catholics explicitly forbidding oral sex, either, though I can’t recall them endorsing it either (unlike vaginal sex during the woman’s infertile days), so I’m assuming they aren’t technically OK with it. They do clearly forbid IVF (which is one of the zillion reasons why Angels and Demons by Dan Brown is ridiculous), though, since many of them are kind-of sort-of reasonable, I wouldn’t expect that to make much of a fuss about semen analyses (given that the pleasure of the orgasm isn’t the point, and figuring out whether you haven’t had a baby yet because of bad luck or because you’re sterile is).