it’s not really the case that any given fat person can simply become not-fat through the atomic action “take a GLP-1”
some people get prohibitive side effects from GLP-1s. some people find them ineffective. many people find them somewhat effective and worth taking for the health benefits of being 30 pounds lighter but if you weigh 300 pounds then subtracting 30 isn’t visually notable, and subtracting more than 30 is hard
some of these things can be worked around by experimenting with different GLP-1s in the hope some work better with fewer side effects, and being reliably on them for a long time, and doing some work to rework one’s diet. but at that point the effort part of it is much bigger than the willingness to do this in principle part
I do think it is true that some people see a fat person and think “this person must be really unagentic to still be fat even though we have GLP-1s” but given the above I think that’s just incorrect
it’s not really the case that any given fat person can simply become not-fat through the atomic action “take a GLP-1”
No one said this is the case, though. If you replace “any given fat person” with “the vast majority of fat people”, then the statement clearly holds.
Observing that someone is obese/overweight provides pretty strong evedence that they’re not on GLPs. It could be the case that they are in the small minority of people who get prohibitive side effects or for whom they don’t work, but in no practical circumstance is that the null hypothesis.
disagree, my sense is that “it works moderately such that you lose some weight but not to the point of not being fat anymore” is a very normal situation
and for that matter “got problematic side effects on at least the first GLP-1 they tried” is also not uncommon in my anecdotal experience of friends who have talked about this at all at least
this isn’t always prohibitive but (1) it can be, (2) even if it isn’t it can make the process much slower bc you need to be on a lower dose or try different meds or figure out a protocol that works, (3) once you’re in that kind of “need to figure out a protocol that works” regime rather than just a “try this one easy thing” regime, it’s more like new lifestyle homework than an easy body hack
it’s not really the case that any given fat person can simply become not-fat through the atomic action “take a GLP-1”
some people get prohibitive side effects from GLP-1s. some people find them ineffective. many people find them somewhat effective and worth taking for the health benefits of being 30 pounds lighter but if you weigh 300 pounds then subtracting 30 isn’t visually notable, and subtracting more than 30 is hard
some of these things can be worked around by experimenting with different GLP-1s in the hope some work better with fewer side effects, and being reliably on them for a long time, and doing some work to rework one’s diet. but at that point the effort part of it is much bigger than the willingness to do this in principle part
I do think it is true that some people see a fat person and think “this person must be really unagentic to still be fat even though we have GLP-1s” but given the above I think that’s just incorrect
No one said this is the case, though. If you replace “any given fat person” with “the vast majority of fat people”, then the statement clearly holds.
Observing that someone is obese/overweight provides pretty strong evedence that they’re not on GLPs. It could be the case that they are in the small minority of people who get prohibitive side effects or for whom they don’t work, but in no practical circumstance is that the null hypothesis.
disagree, my sense is that “it works moderately such that you lose some weight but not to the point of not being fat anymore” is a very normal situation
and for that matter “got problematic side effects on at least the first GLP-1 they tried” is also not uncommon in my anecdotal experience of friends who have talked about this at all at least
this isn’t always prohibitive but (1) it can be, (2) even if it isn’t it can make the process much slower bc you need to be on a lower dose or try different meds or figure out a protocol that works, (3) once you’re in that kind of “need to figure out a protocol that works” regime rather than just a “try this one easy thing” regime, it’s more like new lifestyle homework than an easy body hack