That has to be the worst citation in support of an argument I’ve ever seen. “Standard usage”...is number 6 on a list of different models of faith in philosophical terms? Right. That’s clearly what most people mean when they talk about faith.
Also, trusting someone else is the opposite of fidelity to that person, not the same thing.
Regardless, the definition Nietzsche is using is obviously not referring to a trust-based model.
That has to be the worst citation in support of an argument I’ve ever seen.
Let me be the first to welcome you, since it appears this is your first day on the Internet.
“Standard usage”...is number 6 on a list of different models of faith in philosophical terms? Right. That’s clearly what most people mean when they talk about faith.
I wasn’t aware of the context in which your back-and-forth with Eugine_Nier was taking place, since I only started reading at this comment when it was in the recent comments feed. My bad. I assumed you thought he was using “faith” in an idiosyncratic way, rather than in a way that has been part of theology for almost a millennium. After reading a few comments up I can see that you were referring to a particular quote by Nietzsche (one in which he probably did not mean to refer to the concept of faith as trust).
Also, trusting someone else is the opposite of fidelity to that person, not the same thing.
Obviously, “trusting someone” is not the same as “fidelity to that person”. I never claimed otherwise. On the other hand, opposite is way too strong a word for this. Moreover, Eugine_Nier’s comment never made such an equivalence claim. He said that “faith amounts” to the “belief that your spouse won’t cheat on you”. This sounds very much like the concept of faith as trust (and not its opposite).
Regardless, the definition Nietzsche is using is obviously not referring to a trust-based model.
That has to be the worst citation in support of an argument I’ve ever seen. “Standard usage”...is number 6 on a list of different models of faith in philosophical terms? Right. That’s clearly what most people mean when they talk about faith.
Also, trusting someone else is the opposite of fidelity to that person, not the same thing.
Regardless, the definition Nietzsche is using is obviously not referring to a trust-based model.
Let me be the first to welcome you, since it appears this is your first day on the Internet.
I wasn’t aware of the context in which your back-and-forth with Eugine_Nier was taking place, since I only started reading at this comment when it was in the recent comments feed. My bad. I assumed you thought he was using “faith” in an idiosyncratic way, rather than in a way that has been part of theology for almost a millennium. After reading a few comments up I can see that you were referring to a particular quote by Nietzsche (one in which he probably did not mean to refer to the concept of faith as trust).
Obviously, “trusting someone” is not the same as “fidelity to that person”. I never claimed otherwise. On the other hand, opposite is way too strong a word for this. Moreover, Eugine_Nier’s comment never made such an equivalence claim. He said that “faith amounts” to the “belief that your spouse won’t cheat on you”. This sounds very much like the concept of faith as trust (and not its opposite).
We are in full agreement on this point.