I’m really encouraged by research that attempts interventions like this rather than the ridiculous “This LLM introspects, because when I repeatedly prompted it about introspection it told me it does” tests.
I do wonder with the only 20% success rate how that would compare to humans? (I do like the ocean vector failed example—“I don’t detect an injected thought. The ocean remains calm and undisturbed.”)
I’m not sure if one could find a comparable metric to observe in human awareness of influences on their cognition… i.e. “I am feeling this way because of [specific exogenous variable]”?
Isn’t that the entire point of using activities like Focusing, to hone and teach us to notice thoughts, feelings, and affect which otherwise go un-noticed? Particularly in light of the complexity of human thought and the huge amount of processes which are constantly going on unnoticed (for example, nervous tics which I’ve only become aware of when someone has pointed them out to me, but others might be saccades—we’re not aware or notice each individual saccade, only the ‘gestalt’ of where out gaze goes—and even then involuntary interventions that operate faster than we can notice can shift our gaze, like when someone yells out for help, or calls your name. Not to mention Nudge Theory and Priming)
I’m really encouraged by research that attempts interventions like this rather than the ridiculous “This LLM introspects, because when I repeatedly prompted it about introspection it told me it does” tests.
I do wonder with the only 20% success rate how that would compare to humans? (I do like the ocean vector failed example—“I don’t detect an injected thought. The ocean remains calm and undisturbed.”)
I’m not sure if one could find a comparable metric to observe in human awareness of influences on their cognition… i.e. “I am feeling this way because of [specific exogenous variable]”?
Isn’t that the entire point of using activities like Focusing, to hone and teach us to notice thoughts, feelings, and affect which otherwise go un-noticed? Particularly in light of the complexity of human thought and the huge amount of processes which are constantly going on unnoticed (for example, nervous tics which I’ve only become aware of when someone has pointed them out to me, but others might be saccades—we’re not aware or notice each individual saccade, only the ‘gestalt’ of where out gaze goes—and even then involuntary interventions that operate faster than we can notice can shift our gaze, like when someone yells out for help, or calls your name. Not to mention Nudge Theory and Priming)