Harry would learn whatever he had to learn, invent whatever he had to invent, rip the knowledge of Salazar Slytherin from the Dark Lord’s mind, discover the secret of Atlantis, open any gates or break any seals necessary, find his way to the root of all magic and reprogram it.
This doesn’t sound like mere time-turning.
It might include redesigning death.
Possibly wishful thinking on my part, but I could see it as Harry starts the retrieval of Hermione’s soul, and collaboration between them is required to reboot the universe without breaking it.
I’m bewildered at why Quirrel thinks he can get any particular result from Harry by having Hermione killed. Or is Quirrel assuming that Harry is now in a state where he can be manipulated reliably?
Minor point: It doesn’t occur to anyone that Hermione might not be the only student who’s missing?
I’m bewildered at why Quirrel thinks he can get any particular result from Harry by having Hermione killed. Or is Quirrel assuming that Harry is now in a state where he can be manipulated reliably?
Quirrell thinks Harry will take the gloves off now and accomplish goals like gaining power without any hesitation. Whatever Quirrell is up to, it seems like he wants Harry to gain power. Quote:
He’d felt the fury the boy had directed at some annoyance who was likely Dumbledore; followed by an unknown resolution whose unyielding hardness even he found adequate. With any luck, the boy had just discarded his foolish little reluctances.
Recall that Harry said the following to Quirrell in Chapter 66:
“Lessson I learned is not to try plotss that would make girl-child friend think I am evil or boy-child friend think I am sstupid,” Harry snapped back.
Those two obstacles to Harry trying plots have now conveniently been removed!
Considering Harry’s capabilities, just wanting him to be more powerful seems like a very risky course. Quirrel presumably wants Harry to do something Quirrel wants that Quirrel can’t do himself.
Minor point: It doesn’t occur to anyone that Hermione might not be the only student who’s missing?
It’s known that other students are missing; most of them are assumed to be locked in their common rooms, and the teachers are searching for the rest. Harry is uniquely concerned with Hermione because he (correctly) anticipates an assassination attempt on her.
I’m bewildered at why Quirrel thinks he can get any particular result from Harry by having Hermione killed.
I don’t think he did it. Notice that he thinks it has been a surprisingly good day, suggesting that he thinks he gained something from Hermione’s death, but did not orchestrate it himself.
It was a surprisingly good day because he didn’t intend Harry to try to rescue Hermione. Harry was supposed to find out about her death later. He couldn’t be absolutely sure her death would have the precisely correct effect on Harry, either. It was surprisingly good because he got Dead Hermione and Dark Harry out of the deal; an expectedly good day would have been just getting the former.
The troll is no more. Assuming there is no second troll or any other shenanigans going on, there is no danger anymore. I’m writing this from the point of view of a reader, not any of the characters.
This doesn’t sound like mere time-turning.
It might include redesigning death.
Possibly wishful thinking on my part, but I could see it as Harry starts the retrieval of Hermione’s soul, and collaboration between them is required to reboot the universe without breaking it.
I’m bewildered at why Quirrel thinks he can get any particular result from Harry by having Hermione killed. Or is Quirrel assuming that Harry is now in a state where he can be manipulated reliably?
Minor point: It doesn’t occur to anyone that Hermione might not be the only student who’s missing?
Quirrell thinks Harry will take the gloves off now and accomplish goals like gaining power without any hesitation. Whatever Quirrell is up to, it seems like he wants Harry to gain power. Quote:
Recall that Harry said the following to Quirrell in Chapter 66:
Those two obstacles to Harry trying plots have now conveniently been removed!
He still has simulations of them both in his head, though.
Considering Harry’s capabilities, just wanting him to be more powerful seems like a very risky course. Quirrel presumably wants Harry to do something Quirrel wants that Quirrel can’t do himself.
I think Quirrel wants to rule from behind the throne.
That only works when you can control the king.
I don’t think this new prophecy is going to make his day.
Yeah. That’s what I think. Quirrel is in for a very unpleasant suprise, and is probably going to be permanently sacrificed by Harry at some point.
It’s known that other students are missing; most of them are assumed to be locked in their common rooms, and the teachers are searching for the rest. Harry is uniquely concerned with Hermione because he (correctly) anticipates an assassination attempt on her.
I don’t think he did it. Notice that he thinks it has been a surprisingly good day, suggesting that he thinks he gained something from Hermione’s death, but did not orchestrate it himself.
It was a surprisingly good day because he didn’t intend Harry to try to rescue Hermione. Harry was supposed to find out about her death later. He couldn’t be absolutely sure her death would have the precisely correct effect on Harry, either. It was surprisingly good because he got Dead Hermione and Dark Harry out of the deal; an expectedly good day would have been just getting the former.
Maybe its surprising because Harry is responding in exactly the way Quirrel wanted?
Or at least Q. THINKS that Harry is responding in the way Quirrel anted?
Unless there is a second troll, it doesn’t seem important.
EDIT: Or the student could be involved with the instigator of the whole conundrum (either as a victim or as a not necessarily willing helper)...
Unimportant to who? It might not be important to the main story, but someone might notice that their friend or relative isn’t in the protected area.
I just meant that neglecting additional missing people will likely not put them or anyone else in any danger.
If you don’t know where people are, and you don’t know where the troll is, then the people are at risk.
The troll is no more. Assuming there is no second troll or any other shenanigans going on, there is no danger anymore. I’m writing this from the point of view of a reader, not any of the characters.
As for the assumption: http://predictionbook.com/predictions/19871