>I think ablations/knockouts (e.g. helpful-only models, RLVR-only models, models without X piece of post-training) should also be counted here.I would count these as “natural”—where the definitive feature is to understand training pipelines and their safety properties or failure modes.
>I think ablations/knockouts (e.g. helpful-only models, RLVR-only models, models without X piece of post-training) should also be counted here.
I would count these as “natural”—where the definitive feature is to understand training pipelines and their safety properties or failure modes.