Caledonian, it would improve discussion if you would make an effort to try to understand what I’m saying rather than flatly declaring “you’re wrong”. That being said, I’m not sure why you were redacted, that didn’t make a lot of sense.
As for advocates of uploading, they believe the definitions of their selves are certain properties of the relationships between things, and said properties can be duplicated and transferred between different sets of things. At no point are they ‘Something Else’.
“Properties of the relationship between things” is not a physical concept, so it indeed appears to be “something else”.
Take the idea of the letter “A”. It is composed of parts in certain relations—three lines in a configuration. It’s the same letter whether the lines are made up of pixels on a screen or ink on a page. Interestingly, it’s the same letter even if some of the lines are curved slightly, or thickened, or enhanced with serifs—Doug Hofstadter has written about this particular example. All of these cases are composed of physics, and no violation of physical law is going on, but the physics in the various cases have nothing in common. So whatever makes A-ness would appear to be “something else”.
Caledonian, it would improve discussion if you would make an effort to try to understand what I’m saying rather than flatly declaring “you’re wrong”. That being said, I’m not sure why you were redacted, that didn’t make a lot of sense.
As for advocates of uploading, they believe the definitions of their selves are certain properties of the relationships between things, and said properties can be duplicated and transferred between different sets of things. At no point are they ‘Something Else’.
“Properties of the relationship between things” is not a physical concept, so it indeed appears to be “something else”.
Take the idea of the letter “A”. It is composed of parts in certain relations—three lines in a configuration. It’s the same letter whether the lines are made up of pixels on a screen or ink on a page. Interestingly, it’s the same letter even if some of the lines are curved slightly, or thickened, or enhanced with serifs—Doug Hofstadter has written about this particular example. All of these cases are composed of physics, and no violation of physical law is going on, but the physics in the various cases have nothing in common. So whatever makes A-ness would appear to be “something else”.