Not clear it is worth completing burning the AIS communities relationships with the labs (OpenAI might be an exception as that is arguably already burnt).
I honestly wonder if there are AI Safety researchers working at Frontier labs that would end their relationships with orgs that support litigators with forensic evidence / expert witnesses. I note that Anthropic’s ongoing suits are in relation to IP and copyright- I would understand AIS researchers not wanting to get involved here at all.
OpenAI and Character.AI have the largest count of s*uicide and AI Spiralism / AI Psychosis related suits (Google has the Gavalascase). Whether or not you think this helps the x-risk agenda, I do not believe is responsible to “look away” when people are dying.
And, from personal experience, these cases (Raine, Sewell/Garcia) have enabled productive conversations with policy-makers (you can research “harmful manipulation, EU AI Act” and hopefully see the importance of this cases in policy, but I suspect you’d be more open if you hear it from a policy org).
Also: I am aware that there are members of this community that work at OpenAI (even if “already burnt”) and do try their best to do the right thing. Their legal team’s litigation practices have been questionable, but I agree it’s important to care for relationships with aligned individuals- I admire those people at Labs who have taken a stance.
I honestly wonder if there are AI Safety researchers working at Frontier labs that would end their relationships with orgs that support litigators with forensic evidence / expert witnesses.
I note that Anthropic’s ongoing suits are in relation to IP and copyright- I would understand AIS researchers not wanting to get involved here at all.
OpenAI and Character.AI have the largest count of s*uicide and AI Spiralism / AI Psychosis related suits (Google has the Gavalas case). Whether or not you think this helps the x-risk agenda, I do not believe is responsible to “look away” when people are dying.
And, from personal experience, these cases (Raine, Sewell/Garcia) have enabled productive conversations with policy-makers (you can research “harmful manipulation, EU AI Act” and hopefully see the importance of this cases in policy, but I suspect you’d be more open if you hear it from a policy org).
Also: I am aware that there are members of this community that work at OpenAI (even if “already burnt”) and do try their best to do the right thing. Their legal team’s litigation practices have been questionable, but I agree it’s important to care for relationships with aligned individuals- I admire those people at Labs who have taken a stance.