As I’ve noted, my original comment isn’t arguing what I thought I was arguing—I thought I was arguing that there’s always some sort of ’sploit, in the sense of giving the mind a bad meme that takes it over, but I was actually arguing that it can’t know there isn’t. Which is also interesting (if my logic holds), but not nearly as strong.
I am very interested in the idea of whether there would always be a virulent poison meme ’sploit (even if building it would require infeasible time), but I suspect that requires a different line of argument.
I’m not aware of anything resembling a clear enough formalism of what people mean by mind or meme to answer either your original question or this one. I suspect we don’t have anywhere near the understanding of minds in general to hope to answer the question, but my intuition is that it is the sort of question that we should be trying to answer.
As I’ve noted, my original comment isn’t arguing what I thought I was arguing—I thought I was arguing that there’s always some sort of ’sploit, in the sense of giving the mind a bad meme that takes it over, but I was actually arguing that it can’t know there isn’t. Which is also interesting (if my logic holds), but not nearly as strong.
I am very interested in the idea of whether there would always be a virulent poison meme ’sploit (even if building it would require infeasible time), but I suspect that requires a different line of argument.
I’m not aware of anything resembling a clear enough formalism of what people mean by mind or meme to answer either your original question or this one. I suspect we don’t have anywhere near the understanding of minds in general to hope to answer the question, but my intuition is that it is the sort of question that we should be trying to answer.