I enjoyed the post. My experience in meditation circles is that people are awfully resistant to talking about results—for good reasons and bad. Speaking opening about the results of yourself or others makes you a target. But, as your post implies, not talking about results could be a convenient excuse for not having results.
For those looking for verified results in I think one’s best bet is finding mentors or communities of practice where results of members can be relatively verified. Even there, epistemics are hard.
Also, side point that I think you would agree with, I don’t think meditation practice is the quickest intervention to achieve mundane life benefits like making deeper friendships, or having a flourishing home life. I’m not sure about that though, because my maturing has been intertwined with meditation practice, so I don’t know the counterfactual.
I enjoyed the post. My experience in meditation circles is that people are awfully resistant to talking about results—for good reasons and bad. Speaking opening about the results of yourself or others makes you a target. But, as your post implies, not talking about results could be a convenient excuse for not having results.
For those looking for verified results in I think one’s best bet is finding mentors or communities of practice where results of members can be relatively verified. Even there, epistemics are hard.
Also, side point that I think you would agree with, I don’t think meditation practice is the quickest intervention to achieve mundane life benefits like making deeper friendships, or having a flourishing home life. I’m not sure about that though, because my maturing has been intertwined with meditation practice, so I don’t know the counterfactual.