Grouping things into categories seems like a great way to form biases and have a limited scope of how to think about people. Do we really need to have another system that categorizes personalities?
This might seem like a harsh example, but horoscopes is an example of what this system reminds me of.
The overall picture I see with this, is that we are giving limited value to a word that could mean many things, and could be interpreted in many ways, when most things are more complex than this (especially people). Basically, it seems to me to be a vague way to express something. I personally am of the mindset that it’s of a benefit to not group people into categories.
So, let’s suppose astrologers have come up with 12 personality types, and then they claim to be able to tell which one fits you best by careful consideration of your date and time of birth. It seems to me that the big problem there is with the second half, not the first. (Even bigger problems if they claim to be able to use the information to predict what’s going to happen to you, of course.) But the second half is exactly what isn’t present in Conor’s analysis here.
I don’t know whether the advantages of having a small number of personality archetypes and pigeonholing people as combinations of those archetypes outweigh the disadvantages. Nor do I have any opinion worth listening to about whether the particular set of 5 archetypes described here is a particularly good one. But “it resembles one thing astrologers do” is not a good argument against it.
You did mention making useful predictions with your 5 color types, which was why I wasn’t afraid to go with horoscopes as an example.
That’s paraphrase seems to have taken quite a leap in what I was trying to say. I can elaborate if you’d like. It’s just that this post doesn’t appear much different from other personality tests that group people into categories. Psychology used to have a similar approach of trying to categorize people, but as they make more advance and learn how different everybody is from each other. They have learned to have a more open approach to people rather than a category to put them in and work from a bias to determine what steps to do next.
I see. I think I understand where the disconnect is here then. I’m making a claim that personality tests such as MBTI do not appear to be useful in general, and are potentially more harmful than they are helpful. My logic behind this is that it’s basically a way to form tribes, and a way to create more bias. My example on psychologists in the reply just before this one is along the lines of what I’m thinking.
Grouping things into categories seems like a great way to form biases and have a limited scope of how to think about people. Do we really need to have another system that categorizes personalities?
This might seem like a harsh example, but horoscopes is an example of what this system reminds me of.
The overall picture I see with this, is that we are giving limited value to a word that could mean many things, and could be interpreted in many ways, when most things are more complex than this (especially people). Basically, it seems to me to be a vague way to express something. I personally am of the mindset that it’s of a benefit to not group people into categories.
So, let’s suppose astrologers have come up with 12 personality types, and then they claim to be able to tell which one fits you best by careful consideration of your date and time of birth. It seems to me that the big problem there is with the second half, not the first. (Even bigger problems if they claim to be able to use the information to predict what’s going to happen to you, of course.) But the second half is exactly what isn’t present in Conor’s analysis here.
I don’t know whether the advantages of having a small number of personality archetypes and pigeonholing people as combinations of those archetypes outweigh the disadvantages. Nor do I have any opinion worth listening to about whether the particular set of 5 archetypes described here is a particularly good one. But “it resembles one thing astrologers do” is not a good argument against it.
You did mention making useful predictions with your 5 color types, which was why I wasn’t afraid to go with horoscopes as an example.
That’s paraphrase seems to have taken quite a leap in what I was trying to say. I can elaborate if you’d like. It’s just that this post doesn’t appear much different from other personality tests that group people into categories. Psychology used to have a similar approach of trying to categorize people, but as they make more advance and learn how different everybody is from each other. They have learned to have a more open approach to people rather than a category to put them in and work from a bias to determine what steps to do next.
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I see. I think I understand where the disconnect is here then. I’m making a claim that personality tests such as MBTI do not appear to be useful in general, and are potentially more harmful than they are helpful. My logic behind this is that it’s basically a way to form tribes, and a way to create more bias. My example on psychologists in the reply just before this one is along the lines of what I’m thinking.
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I appreciate looking into my point of view!