I don’t know why I didn’t realize that I needed to understand this better before I jumped in. I was ignorant of my own ignorance. Sometimes when you don’t realize you’re missing a piece of information, there is nothing to warn you. Other times, I see that things are going to be complex. (Which is why I took the time to think it out and wrote something like ten pages on different solutions to Eternal September and their consequences). I also do that at work—I clarify what the purpose of the project is before I code it. For some reason, that little flag was missing here. Now I get to try and guess why.
I think you’re right that I don’t pick up on hints enough. I really don’t get why people hint. That seems dysfunctional to me. I wish they’d just be clear.
idealizing the community
The problem isn’t that I idealized the community, the problem is … how do I explain this. I am extremely prone to a particular bias. I know I have it, I just don’t know the word for it. I give people too much credit. It’s something I do over and over again. Not sure how to stop it. I seem to need to learn about each group’s flaws individually.
a chance to get acculturated into the thinking tools
I started challenging my ideas and using logic at 17, and I’ve been pretty hard core about it since then. I’m already using a lot of the thinking tools. Apparently I still am not perfect. I feel like I really needed to be part of a group of people capable of pointing out my flaws and giving me ideas I would not have thought of. I am so grateful for this. I will have a chance to find any unseen problems now.
Rationality remains the exception rather than the rule—this is implied in the very name “Less Wrong”.
Thank you for that. I feel better about not being perfect. (: Still going to aim for perfection though. (:
Play a round of Rationalist Taboo
I decided to take your and Alicorn’s suggestion on this. At first I didn’t know what that meant but I have since found the correct reading materials.
If you can steer clear of any meta-discussion (including even allusions to meta topics), this could even be good material for a post.
I would love to do that. I’ve been thinking that if I can learn enough about the political sides that seem to be triggered here, I can transcend thinking inside that dichotomy, and perhaps show others how to do the same. That’s my thought on how to present it. Do you have anything to suggest in addition?
This was so sane, Morendil. Thank you.
I don’t know why I didn’t realize that I needed to understand this better before I jumped in. I was ignorant of my own ignorance. Sometimes when you don’t realize you’re missing a piece of information, there is nothing to warn you. Other times, I see that things are going to be complex. (Which is why I took the time to think it out and wrote something like ten pages on different solutions to Eternal September and their consequences). I also do that at work—I clarify what the purpose of the project is before I code it. For some reason, that little flag was missing here. Now I get to try and guess why.
I think you’re right that I don’t pick up on hints enough. I really don’t get why people hint. That seems dysfunctional to me. I wish they’d just be clear.
The problem isn’t that I idealized the community, the problem is … how do I explain this. I am extremely prone to a particular bias. I know I have it, I just don’t know the word for it. I give people too much credit. It’s something I do over and over again. Not sure how to stop it. I seem to need to learn about each group’s flaws individually.
I started challenging my ideas and using logic at 17, and I’ve been pretty hard core about it since then. I’m already using a lot of the thinking tools. Apparently I still am not perfect. I feel like I really needed to be part of a group of people capable of pointing out my flaws and giving me ideas I would not have thought of. I am so grateful for this. I will have a chance to find any unseen problems now.
Thank you for that. I feel better about not being perfect. (: Still going to aim for perfection though. (:
I decided to take your and Alicorn’s suggestion on this. At first I didn’t know what that meant but I have since found the correct reading materials.
I would love to do that. I’ve been thinking that if I can learn enough about the political sides that seem to be triggered here, I can transcend thinking inside that dichotomy, and perhaps show others how to do the same. That’s my thought on how to present it. Do you have anything to suggest in addition?