Taking governments too seriously in what sense? Adopting values implicit in in government rhetoric? Following laws? Give some examples if you’d like.
Also, are you considering the counterfactual here? Without religion there’s atheism. What happens when people don’t take governments too seriously? It’s actually unclear to me that religion does more harm than good; I would guess that the harm done apparently done by religion is largely due to general human nature and that there are upsides of organic community so that on balance it’s a wash.
I noticed that, while there used to be religious wars, for the most part these days, what gets people to die for no good reason is nationalism.
I’m not sure what the best attitude is—I don’t think we can dispense with government these days, but on the other hand, I don’t think law-abidingness and patriotism should be put very high on the list of virtues.
I noticed that, while there used to be religious wars, for the most part these days, what gets people to die for no good reason is nationalism.
Don’t both of religion and nationalism fall under the broader umbrella of tribalism? It’s plausible to me that without either one there would be some other sort of tribalism with adverse effects on global welfare. People might not die as a result but I don’t think that there’s reason to think that the aggregate negative effect would be smaller.
Now, if what replaced them was some sort of ideology of the type “equal consideration for all” that filled the vaccum left over by politics/religion then that would be different. I have little sense for how likely this would be.
I’m not sure what the best attitude is—I don’t think we can dispense with government these days, but on the other hand, I don’t think law-abidingness and patriotism should be put very high on the list of virtues.
What sort of law-abidingness do you have in mind here? Obeying military drafts?
It’s actually unclear to me that religion does more harm than good
For quick and dirty empirical evidence, look at latest european poll
Do countries on the top of table with least belief in God, spirit or life force behave more rationally?
Taking governments too seriously in what sense? Adopting values implicit in in government rhetoric? Following laws? Give some examples if you’d like.
Also, are you considering the counterfactual here? Without religion there’s atheism. What happens when people don’t take governments too seriously? It’s actually unclear to me that religion does more harm than good; I would guess that the harm done apparently done by religion is largely due to general human nature and that there are upsides of organic community so that on balance it’s a wash.
I noticed that, while there used to be religious wars, for the most part these days, what gets people to die for no good reason is nationalism.
I’m not sure what the best attitude is—I don’t think we can dispense with government these days, but on the other hand, I don’t think law-abidingness and patriotism should be put very high on the list of virtues.
Don’t both of religion and nationalism fall under the broader umbrella of tribalism? It’s plausible to me that without either one there would be some other sort of tribalism with adverse effects on global welfare. People might not die as a result but I don’t think that there’s reason to think that the aggregate negative effect would be smaller.
Now, if what replaced them was some sort of ideology of the type “equal consideration for all” that filled the vaccum left over by politics/religion then that would be different. I have little sense for how likely this would be.
What sort of law-abidingness do you have in mind here? Obeying military drafts?
It’s actually unclear to me that religion does more harm than good
For quick and dirty empirical evidence, look at latest european poll Do countries on the top of table with least belief in God, spirit or life force behave more rationally?