It seems pdf has not been on LW for a while, but I need to get this out of my system. Suicide is unbelievably stupid. I was friends with someone who committed suicide years ago, and my mom has been suicidally depressed before. Trying to kill yourself will do nothing but hurt people who know you. The probability of resurrection will never be one (even if you sign up for cyronics), and the probability of your life improving will never be zero even if your goals are apparently impossible. Its bad enough that people die without wanting to...
That’s quite a cruel thing to say to somebody that’s suicidally depressed. When you’re in that state, every single day is agony and there’s little hope for it ever to get better. From that perspective, you are the selfish one for forcing someone else to live in agony for your own pleasure. If you want your suicidal loved ones not to commit suicide, focus on helping reduce the agony, not hurling accusations at them.
I’ve known a number of people who suffer from suicidal depression, and talked a couple people down from suicide myself. Most of them are aware of the “suicide is stupid and selfish” interpretation, but find it extremely hard to buy that anyone will be meaningfully hurt by their deaths, or that their life has realistic prospects to get better, while in a suicidal state.
Yep, which is one reason why I would never choose to be a counselor. I am rather attached to my own existence, so trying to understand people who are not isn’t intuitive.
It seems pdf has not been on LW for a while, but I need to get this out of my system. Suicide is unbelievably stupid. I was friends with someone who committed suicide years ago, and my mom has been suicidally depressed before. Trying to kill yourself will do nothing but hurt people who know you. The probability of resurrection will never be one (even if you sign up for cyronics), and the probability of your life improving will never be zero even if your goals are apparently impossible. Its bad enough that people die without wanting to...
That’s quite a cruel thing to say to somebody that’s suicidally depressed. When you’re in that state, every single day is agony and there’s little hope for it ever to get better. From that perspective, you are the selfish one for forcing someone else to live in agony for your own pleasure. If you want your suicidal loved ones not to commit suicide, focus on helping reduce the agony, not hurling accusations at them.
I’ve known a number of people who suffer from suicidal depression, and talked a couple people down from suicide myself. Most of them are aware of the “suicide is stupid and selfish” interpretation, but find it extremely hard to buy that anyone will be meaningfully hurt by their deaths, or that their life has realistic prospects to get better, while in a suicidal state.
Yep, which is one reason why I would never choose to be a counselor. I am rather attached to my own existence, so trying to understand people who are not isn’t intuitive.
Also, it seems this post has been deleted from discussion. Why?