I agree I could write this more carefully. The point is, in theories like” predictive processing (or my understanding of them), there is not much difference between perceiving/knowing and acting, both are part of the same predictive system, with the difference that goals are encoded as beliefs that cannot be challenged, at least for as long as the action is ongoing. As I mention, action is a particular form of suspension of disbelief.
Ah, well, I don’t take predictive processing seriously. It’s one of the more absurd ideas I’ve seen smart people come up with, and I’ve read a fair amount of the background from which the concept comes. Making a thing happen and predicting that it will happen are different things. But then, people here even try to salvage Evidential Decision Theory. There seems to be something strangely attractive about the idea that people are zombies, passive observers of the world who cannot actually do anything, merely observe what they seem to have done. Perhaps the ones who find it attractive are indeed the zombies that these theories describe.
I have the hardest time imagining a conceptual link between p-zombies and predictive processing, but if you don’t like it, you don’t like it, I guess!
Personally, the ambiguity between belief and action in this framework is the only half-reasonable explanation I have encountered so far for why the study of values and rituals is so hopelessly confused at a basic conceptual level (far more than even your typical social science question)
Ah, well, I don’t take predictive processing seriously. It’s one of the more absurd ideas I’ve seen smart people come up with, and I’ve read a fair amount of the background from which the concept comes. Making a thing happen and predicting that it will happen are different things. But then, people here even try to salvage Evidential Decision Theory. There seems to be something strangely attractive about the idea that people are zombies, passive observers of the world who cannot actually do anything, merely observe what they seem to have done. Perhaps the ones who find it attractive are indeed the zombies that these theories describe.
I have the hardest time imagining a conceptual link between p-zombies and predictive processing, but if you don’t like it, you don’t like it, I guess!
Personally, the ambiguity between belief and action in this framework is the only half-reasonable explanation I have encountered so far for why the study of values and rituals is so hopelessly confused at a basic conceptual level (far more than even your typical social science question)
I don’t think Richard had p-zombies in mind, but rather the regular sort of zombie.