But what do you mean by “luck”? I am wondering if there is a translation problem here, and a Hebrew word that does not quite map onto the English one. In English it simply means random factors outside the control of the participants. (It is often accompanied by a superstition that it isn’t random but a fickle force that can be attracted or repelled by suitable behaviours.) In that case roulette is entirely luck, poker is partly luck and partly skill (but less luck and more skill the better you are at it and the longer you play), and chess has very little luck. All regardless of the stakes.
The case of the poker club in Jerusalem was presumably conducted in Hebrew. Did the judge simply decide that the activity in question was a social evil that had to be found illegal whatever the letter of the law, or did the law allow itself to be read as supporting the ruling?
Well, in hebrew the meaning is the same. Regarding the poker club in Jerusalem indeed Aumann felt that the judge did not follow the letter of the law but rather his own perception of right and wrong. I offered an explanation why the judge ruling is consistent with the law
I think the difference between our opinions is that you regard the part of poker that is luck and the part that is skill as intinsic property of poker, and perhaps also of how long is the game. In my opinion, just as longer games make the skill element higher there are other ingredients (such as high stakes; winner takes all, and more) that push the skill element down
But what do you mean by “luck”? I am wondering if there is a translation problem here, and a Hebrew word that does not quite map onto the English one. In English it simply means random factors outside the control of the participants. (It is often accompanied by a superstition that it isn’t random but a fickle force that can be attracted or repelled by suitable behaviours.) In that case roulette is entirely luck, poker is partly luck and partly skill (but less luck and more skill the better you are at it and the longer you play), and chess has very little luck. All regardless of the stakes.
The case of the poker club in Jerusalem was presumably conducted in Hebrew. Did the judge simply decide that the activity in question was a social evil that had to be found illegal whatever the letter of the law, or did the law allow itself to be read as supporting the ruling?
Well, in hebrew the meaning is the same. Regarding the poker club in Jerusalem indeed Aumann felt that the judge did not follow the letter of the law but rather his own perception of right and wrong. I offered an explanation why the judge ruling is consistent with the law
I think the difference between our opinions is that you regard the part of poker that is luck and the part that is skill as intinsic property of poker, and perhaps also of how long is the game. In my opinion, just as longer games make the skill element higher there are other ingredients (such as high stakes; winner takes all, and more) that push the skill element down