I’m a manager at a financial firm and I’ve hired people. I’d consider it pretty normal not to want to say. “Everyone” knows that trying to get the other person to name a number first is a common negotiating tactic, no real grownup is going to take it personally or get upset about this.
I don’t know how “normal” a company Google is in this way, but I’d guess it’s pretty normal.
If you are challenged on this, you can try stating it as a rule: “I’m not prepared to discuss my current salary, I’m here to talk about working for Google.” Or, “As a policy I don’t disclose my current salary. I’m sure you understand.” Or make up some blah about how that’s proprietary information for your current employer and you don’t feel comfortable disclosing it.
If they absolutely refuse to process your application without this (which is a bad move on their part if they really want you, but some companies are stubborn that way), other options are to fudge your number upwards somehow, though personally I wouldn’t try the ones that actually involve telling a literal lie:
Give them a wide range of expectations instead of your current salary. Say that of course it depends on the other details of the offer, any other offers you might get, etc.
Roll in as much stuff as you plausibly can (adding in bonuses or other moneylike benefits, and making an adjustment if the cost of living in Googleland is higher than where you live now). Example: I could add my salary of $80k, my last year’s bonus of $5k (or next year’s bonus, or my average bonus in percentage terms, whichever is highest), and my $2k transit benefits for a total of $87k.
Round up to the nearest $10k and say it’s an approximate figure. So if I make $87k I might say I’m in the ballpark of $90k.
State a range (e.g. if I made $69k I might say I make something in the high 5 figures, or somewhere near the $70-80k range)
I’m a manager at a financial firm and I’ve hired people. I’d consider it pretty normal not to want to say. “Everyone” knows that trying to get the other person to name a number first is a common negotiating tactic, no real grownup is going to take it personally or get upset about this.
I don’t know how “normal” a company Google is in this way, but I’d guess it’s pretty normal.
If you are challenged on this, you can try stating it as a rule: “I’m not prepared to discuss my current salary, I’m here to talk about working for Google.” Or, “As a policy I don’t disclose my current salary. I’m sure you understand.” Or make up some blah about how that’s proprietary information for your current employer and you don’t feel comfortable disclosing it.
If they absolutely refuse to process your application without this (which is a bad move on their part if they really want you, but some companies are stubborn that way), other options are to fudge your number upwards somehow, though personally I wouldn’t try the ones that actually involve telling a literal lie:
Give them a wide range of expectations instead of your current salary. Say that of course it depends on the other details of the offer, any other offers you might get, etc.
Roll in as much stuff as you plausibly can (adding in bonuses or other moneylike benefits, and making an adjustment if the cost of living in Googleland is higher than where you live now). Example: I could add my salary of $80k, my last year’s bonus of $5k (or next year’s bonus, or my average bonus in percentage terms, whichever is highest), and my $2k transit benefits for a total of $87k.
Round up to the nearest $10k and say it’s an approximate figure. So if I make $87k I might say I’m in the ballpark of $90k.
State a range (e.g. if I made $69k I might say I make something in the high 5 figures, or somewhere near the $70-80k range)
Lie outright, but plausibly.