So, for the purposes of this comment, I am going to take the fake framework entirely seriously (the framework is fake, so whether the following question makes sense is arguable, but I want to try and see what we can get from this angle).
In this post, you tell us that mythic mode can be useful for changing the role we play in the “web”. However, how do we decide what role we want to play? Isn’t it the case that our reasoning about that is in itself part of the role we are currently playing? Is it the right thing to somehow step out of the role entirely, and look for a new role from that perspective (or even forgo roles entirely)? Is there even such a thing as “the things our inner selves want, independently of the role”? Or, are all our preferences always part of the role and it’s meaningless to talk about preferences that are not?
Is there even such a thing as “the things our inner selves want, independently of the role”? Or, are all our preferences always part of the role and it’s meaningless to talk about preferences that are not?
Some people spend almost none of their time alone, by which I mean not being exposed to social pressures (so e.g. being on Facebook doesn’t count as being alone in the sense I mean it here). Those people will probably learn some things about themselves by deliberately spending a lot of time alone, for example at a silent meditation retreat.
Isn’t it the case that our reasoning about that is in itself part of the role we are currently playing?
Yep. That’s why this is a weaker partial solution than is Looking.
Is there even such a thing as “the things our inner selves want, independently of the role”?
I claim yes, kind of.
There’s secretly a type error embedded in here, but language is horrid for pointing this particular thing out, so I’ll just gesture toward the wave of mystical stuff that keeps saying “there is no self” and claim that there’s some implicit confusion in the ontology I read being used here.
But if we ignore that and round it to the nearest true thing as I understand it… then yes, your “inner self” can want things in a way that isn’t derived from your position in the web. That’s part of why Looking is even possible.
So, for the purposes of this comment, I am going to take the fake framework entirely seriously (the framework is fake, so whether the following question makes sense is arguable, but I want to try and see what we can get from this angle).
In this post, you tell us that mythic mode can be useful for changing the role we play in the “web”. However, how do we decide what role we want to play? Isn’t it the case that our reasoning about that is in itself part of the role we are currently playing? Is it the right thing to somehow step out of the role entirely, and look for a new role from that perspective (or even forgo roles entirely)? Is there even such a thing as “the things our inner selves want, independently of the role”? Or, are all our preferences always part of the role and it’s meaningless to talk about preferences that are not?
Some people spend almost none of their time alone, by which I mean not being exposed to social pressures (so e.g. being on Facebook doesn’t count as being alone in the sense I mean it here). Those people will probably learn some things about themselves by deliberately spending a lot of time alone, for example at a silent meditation retreat.
Yep. That’s why this is a weaker partial solution than is Looking.
I claim yes, kind of.
There’s secretly a type error embedded in here, but language is horrid for pointing this particular thing out, so I’ll just gesture toward the wave of mystical stuff that keeps saying “there is no self” and claim that there’s some implicit confusion in the ontology I read being used here.
But if we ignore that and round it to the nearest true thing as I understand it… then yes, your “inner self” can want things in a way that isn’t derived from your position in the web. That’s part of why Looking is even possible.