Sorry for missing the stupid questions thread, but since the sequences didn’t have something direct about WBE, I thought Open thread might be a better place to ask this question.
I want to know how is the fidelity of Whole Brain Emulation expected to be empirically tested, other than replication of taught behaviour ?
After uploading a rat, would someone look at the emulation of its lifetime and say,” I really knew this rat. This is that rat alone and no one else”.
Would only trained behaviour replication be the empirical standard? What would that mean in terms of emulating more complex beings, who might have their own thoughts other than the behaviours taught to them? Please point me to any literature on the same. I checked the WBE roadmap and replication of trained behaviour seems to be the only way mentioned there.
Thanks for all the replies. Sorry for the delay in response.
Does this mean that in terms of empirically evaluating brain emulations, we will have to “walk blind” on the path of emulating higher and higher organisms until we reach a level of complexity, like rats where we can truly state that a personality is being emulated here and not just a generic instance of an animal?
Probably. I’ve seen proposals for testing uploads (or cryonics) by learning simple reactions or patterns, but while this is good for testing that the brain is working at all, it’s still a very long way from testing preservation of personal identity.
The world (including brains) is strictly deterministic. The only source of our mental contents are our genetics and what we are “taught” by our environments (and the interactions between them). The only significant difference between rat and human brains for the purpose of uploading should be the greater capacity and more complex interactions supported by human brains.
Sorry for missing the stupid questions thread, but since the sequences didn’t have something direct about WBE, I thought Open thread might be a better place to ask this question.
I want to know how is the fidelity of Whole Brain Emulation expected to be empirically tested, other than replication of taught behaviour ?
After uploading a rat, would someone look at the emulation of its lifetime and say,” I really knew this rat. This is that rat alone and no one else”.
Would only trained behaviour replication be the empirical standard? What would that mean in terms of emulating more complex beings, who might have their own thoughts other than the behaviours taught to them? Please point me to any literature on the same. I checked the WBE roadmap and replication of trained behaviour seems to be the only way mentioned there.
You didn’t miss the stupid questions thread, you can still post there. It doesn’t really matter how old a thread is.
People with pet rats notice personality differences.
Rats do have personality differences and I would expect people to ‘notice’ differences in personality even if they didn’t exist.
Rats even seem to have IQ of sorts. Truly, our fuzzy little friends are often underestimated.
Thanks for all the replies. Sorry for the delay in response.
Does this mean that in terms of empirically evaluating brain emulations, we will have to “walk blind” on the path of emulating higher and higher organisms until we reach a level of complexity, like rats where we can truly state that a personality is being emulated here and not just a generic instance of an animal?
Probably. I’ve seen proposals for testing uploads (or cryonics) by learning simple reactions or patterns, but while this is good for testing that the brain is working at all, it’s still a very long way from testing preservation of personal identity.
The world (including brains) is strictly deterministic. The only source of our mental contents are our genetics and what we are “taught” by our environments (and the interactions between them). The only significant difference between rat and human brains for the purpose of uploading should be the greater capacity and more complex interactions supported by human brains.