(You can choose which personality traits you practice, and what kind of people you hang out with, and both of that will change you, but I suspect that these changes are relatively small and impermanent. At least I keep finding myself revert to my old values years and decades later.)
This seems extremely important if true. If this were true about my values I would love to know about it today rather than make years of painful failed attempts at self-modification. It is something I wonder but don’t have good answers to.
(It’s also relevant to other people confused about their values, and to the question of how do you design a good society where everyone has conflicting values)
Have you considered writing up your evidence for this somewhere? I want to know more.
I am exaggerating here, but this is how the world sometimes looks from my perspective.
I would also like to read more about this. Maybe we already agree, or maybe I am also missing lots of low hanging fruit that you can see.
Overcoming adversity, on the other hand, just makes me feel “I am happy that I did it anyway, but it was horrible and I am so happy that the game is finally over”.
I think nearly everyone trying to do something big accepts a bunch of short term suffering in return for achieving their goal in the long term.
Even the people who claim to like adversity, it’s probably more like building muscles, lifting weights is still painful but the stronger body and increased discipline at the end is worth it. Here it’s an upgrade to your resources or skills.
I understand if you’re saying something like—the pain is larger for you, or you don’t have long term goals with big enough upsides that make the pain worth tolerating.
Thank you for this reply.
This seems extremely important if true. If this were true about my values I would love to know about it today rather than make years of painful failed attempts at self-modification. It is something I wonder but don’t have good answers to.
(It’s also relevant to other people confused about their values, and to the question of how do you design a good society where everyone has conflicting values)
Have you considered writing up your evidence for this somewhere? I want to know more.
I would also like to read more about this. Maybe we already agree, or maybe I am also missing lots of low hanging fruit that you can see.
I think nearly everyone trying to do something big accepts a bunch of short term suffering in return for achieving their goal in the long term.
Even the people who claim to like adversity, it’s probably more like building muscles, lifting weights is still painful but the stronger body and increased discipline at the end is worth it. Here it’s an upgrade to your resources or skills.
I understand if you’re saying something like—the pain is larger for you, or you don’t have long term goals with big enough upsides that make the pain worth tolerating.