Thanks. SBF and Caroline would probably be examples of Bad Rationalists, though the link mostly is Caroline saying The Sequences didn’t update her much.
idk if I’m allowed to take the money if I’m not the OP, but it really doesn’t seem hard to find other examples who read and internalized the Sequences and went on to do at least one of the things you mentioned: the Zizians, Cole Killian, etc. I think I know the person OP meant when talking about “releasing blatant pump-and-dump coins and promoting them on their personal Twitter”, I won’t mention her name publicly. I’m sure you can find people who read the Sequences and endorse alignment optimism or China hawkism (certainly you can find highly upvoted arguments for alignment optimism here or on the Alignment Forum) as well.
You’re allowed! Please PM me with how you’d prefer to receive $200.
I’m confused about this subject. I grant that SBF, Caroline, Zizians are examples of Bad Rationalists, (not sure which Bullet Point Cole Killian falls for), and I trust you when you say that there’s at least one more.
If one lowers the bar for Rationalist to “Have read The Sequences with no requirement for endorsing/internalizing”, then probably Sam Altman, Dario Amodei, Leopold A, and others fit the criteria. However, these are people who are widely denounced in the Rationalist Community ; our community seem to have a consensus around the negation of the Bullet Points.
sapphire is (IMHO) not saying goodbye to the Rationalist Community because we endorse SBF or Sam Altman. sapphire is (IMHO) not ceasing posting to LessWrong because Leopold and the Zizians are writing replies to the posts. Something else is going on, and I’m confused.
Thanks. SBF and Caroline would probably be examples of Bad Rationalists, though the link mostly is Caroline saying The Sequences didn’t update her much.
idk if I’m allowed to take the money if I’m not the OP, but it really doesn’t seem hard to find other examples who read and internalized the Sequences and went on to do at least one of the things you mentioned: the Zizians, Cole Killian, etc. I think I know the person OP meant when talking about “releasing blatant pump-and-dump coins and promoting them on their personal Twitter”, I won’t mention her name publicly. I’m sure you can find people who read the Sequences and endorse alignment optimism or China hawkism (certainly you can find highly upvoted arguments for alignment optimism here or on the Alignment Forum) as well.
You’re allowed! Please PM me with how you’d prefer to receive $200.
I’m confused about this subject. I grant that SBF, Caroline, Zizians are examples of Bad Rationalists, (not sure which Bullet Point Cole Killian falls for), and I trust you when you say that there’s at least one more.
If one lowers the bar for Rationalist to “Have read The Sequences with no requirement for endorsing/internalizing”, then probably Sam Altman, Dario Amodei, Leopold A, and others fit the criteria. However, these are people who are widely denounced in the Rationalist Community ; our community seem to have a consensus around the negation of the Bullet Points.
sapphire is (IMHO) not saying goodbye to the Rationalist Community because we endorse SBF or Sam Altman. sapphire is (IMHO) not ceasing posting to LessWrong because Leopold and the Zizians are writing replies to the posts. Something else is going on, and I’m confused.
Technically I guess there is no consensus against alignment optimism (which is fine by itself).