I very much like this frame and I would be curious to hear what you think about truth seeking and a sense of curiosity as another axis (not necessarily orthogonal) to view this through.
I think that justice and doing actual (effective) altruism rests on the ability to evaluate actions and outcomes in a larger system in an efficient way and so the promotion of truth seeking seems to me something that is like almost an instrumental goal to whatever system you’re trying to create. It is a bit like actually closing the prediction action loop, it’s a bit boring in some ways as truth is just like obviously good but I think it might be undervalued when it comes to ideas of justice?
Also I’m not sure if you’re talking about virtue ethics here or deontology for it seems to me that you’re applying Kant’s categorical imperative more than you’re applying a sort of individualised golden mean, a bit like arguing from the state perspective rather than the individual.
Gillian Hadfield has a bunch of cool ideas about how law is a sort of reflection and development of the ideas of large scale act as if you were a random person in the system reasoning that might be fun to check out as well.
I also think you’re right when it comes to morality, it is just a question of what view your arguing from and from the imperfect information system level perspective, virtue ethics makes a lot of sense.
I very much like this frame and I would be curious to hear what you think about truth seeking and a sense of curiosity as another axis (not necessarily orthogonal) to view this through.
I think that justice and doing actual (effective) altruism rests on the ability to evaluate actions and outcomes in a larger system in an efficient way and so the promotion of truth seeking seems to me something that is like almost an instrumental goal to whatever system you’re trying to create. It is a bit like actually closing the prediction action loop, it’s a bit boring in some ways as truth is just like obviously good but I think it might be undervalued when it comes to ideas of justice?
Also I’m not sure if you’re talking about virtue ethics here or deontology for it seems to me that you’re applying Kant’s categorical imperative more than you’re applying a sort of individualised golden mean, a bit like arguing from the state perspective rather than the individual.
Gillian Hadfield has a bunch of cool ideas about how law is a sort of reflection and development of the ideas of large scale act as if you were a random person in the system reasoning that might be fun to check out as well.
I also think you’re right when it comes to morality, it is just a question of what view your arguing from and from the imperfect information system level perspective, virtue ethics makes a lot of sense.