Doing this would be a good way of damning yourself.
John 15:13 doesn’t go far enough.
Greater love has no one than this: that he lay down his soul for another.
How familiar are you with the fall of Lucifer?
Not nearly as familiar as I am with the voluntary fall of Jesus who, it is said, took the wrath of heaven upon himself so that we may be saved from the fires of hell. What Would Jesus Do?
Let me clarify that, shooting 7 year olds (or forcing puberty on five year olds so as to create babies before the parents are 8 and killing the parents before they turn eight so that it is a systematic sustained process (asking your sunday school teachers about such questions (or others like what happens if you pushed an angel into a black hole) can get strange reactions out of them, by the way, and make everyone else think you are crazy, but you already do so there isn’t much to lose in sharing this)) only makes sense from an LDS perspective, unless you are already a psychopath. If you already were a psychopath then me sharing this won’t change much. If you are not LDS or a psychopath then killing seven year olds should already be morally objectionable enough without further explanation
. If you are LDS killing seven year olds counts as shedding innocent blood which is an unpardonable sin. Further, not allowing agency was the plan of Lucifer and the reason he fell from heaven. Therefore, one would be implementing the devils plan by killing seven year olds as well as committing an unpardonable sin. Assuming that besides gaining a body the other part of the purpose of life is to be tested in all things then attempting to prevent testing is contrary to the will of God. Further, assuming that God knows what He is doing better then you do, being omniscience and all, then implement such a strategy would result in no net change to which persons will be saved in the end and which ones will not be saved and can only result in your own damnation.
If God already knows which souls are going to be damned (as is implied by your claim that wedrifid wouldn’t be able to change that), why do the testing in the first place?
Let me clarify that, shooting 7 year olds (or forcing puberty on five year olds so as to create babies before the parents are 8 and killing the parents before they turn eight so that it is a systematic sustained process
Oooh, good thinking. Religion really isn’t set up to handle munchkins!
(asking your sunday school teachers about such questions (or others like what happens if you pushed an angel into a black hole) can get strange reactions out of them
Angels should be no big deal. You can fit, like, a gazillion of them on the head of a pin so they shouldn’t even feel much in the way of tidal forces. Don’t Angels have teleportation powers anyway?
If you already were a psychopath then me sharing this won’t change much.
You can fit, like, a gazillion of them on the head of a pin so they shouldn’t even feel much in the way of tidal forces. Don’t Angels have teleportation powers anyway?
Not in the LDS perspective. For us there are three (sort of five) types of angels. There are the spirits of people that haven’t been born, the spirits of people that are dead but not resurrected, and the people that have been resurrected. The other are people sent from God that are not dead, being both those that are mortal and those that have been translated. The mortal one is uninteresting, one could probably find a grad student willing to do the experiment with the promise of a PHD. The others are the more interesting ones, being what effects does gravity have on spirit matter (being that for the LDS spirit is a type of matter) and what effects would it have on a resurrected body or a translated body. Destruction of the spirit is not a possible outcome. I have determined that, unfortunately, God is not likely to allow test subjects to volunteer themselves for the experiment and/or provide a convenient black hole for said experiment. Presumably once one is resurrected one will gain that knowledge.
Something like Teleportation, I am unclear on the details.
How much pressure can the immortal bodies endure? None of this (apart from mass) matters from the point of view of outside the event horizon. Just what things look like inside.
Doing this would be a good way of damning yourself. How familiar are you with the fall of Lucifer?
John 15:13 doesn’t go far enough.
Greater love has no one than this: that he lay down his soul for another.
Not nearly as familiar as I am with the voluntary fall of Jesus who, it is said, took the wrath of heaven upon himself so that we may be saved from the fires of hell. What Would Jesus Do?
Let me clarify that, shooting 7 year olds (or forcing puberty on five year olds so as to create babies before the parents are 8 and killing the parents before they turn eight so that it is a systematic sustained process (asking your sunday school teachers about such questions (or others like what happens if you pushed an angel into a black hole) can get strange reactions out of them, by the way, and make everyone else think you are crazy, but you already do so there isn’t much to lose in sharing this)) only makes sense from an LDS perspective, unless you are already a psychopath. If you already were a psychopath then me sharing this won’t change much. If you are not LDS or a psychopath then killing seven year olds should already be morally objectionable enough without further explanation
. If you are LDS killing seven year olds counts as shedding innocent blood which is an unpardonable sin. Further, not allowing agency was the plan of Lucifer and the reason he fell from heaven. Therefore, one would be implementing the devils plan by killing seven year olds as well as committing an unpardonable sin. Assuming that besides gaining a body the other part of the purpose of life is to be tested in all things then attempting to prevent testing is contrary to the will of God. Further, assuming that God knows what He is doing better then you do, being omniscience and all, then implement such a strategy would result in no net change to which persons will be saved in the end and which ones will not be saved and can only result in your own damnation.
If God already knows which souls are going to be damned (as is implied by your claim that wedrifid wouldn’t be able to change that), why do the testing in the first place?
So that we can know what we will do.
Replied to this when it was the edit in the ancestor.
Oooh, good thinking. Religion really isn’t set up to handle munchkins!
Angels should be no big deal. You can fit, like, a gazillion of them on the head of a pin so they shouldn’t even feel much in the way of tidal forces. Don’t Angels have teleportation powers anyway?
I love the irony.
Not in the LDS perspective. For us there are three (sort of five) types of angels. There are the spirits of people that haven’t been born, the spirits of people that are dead but not resurrected, and the people that have been resurrected. The other are people sent from God that are not dead, being both those that are mortal and those that have been translated. The mortal one is uninteresting, one could probably find a grad student willing to do the experiment with the promise of a PHD. The others are the more interesting ones, being what effects does gravity have on spirit matter (being that for the LDS spirit is a type of matter) and what effects would it have on a resurrected body or a translated body. Destruction of the spirit is not a possible outcome. I have determined that, unfortunately, God is not likely to allow test subjects to volunteer themselves for the experiment and/or provide a convenient black hole for said experiment. Presumably once one is resurrected one will gain that knowledge.
Something like Teleportation, I am unclear on the details.
How are the bodies with being exposed to a vacuum indefinitely?
I assume they would be fine, being immortal.
Physical beatings? And how much do they weight?
How much pressure can the immortal bodies endure? None of this (apart from mass) matters from the point of view of outside the event horizon. Just what things look like inside.
Are you playing devil’s advocate, or are you a Mormon missionary here for our redemption?
Edit: Why was this downvoted?
Well, in this case it is God’s advocate. Apparently I’m advocating for Lucifer.
I am LDS, is there a problem with that?
Not on my end. :)
Edit: And this?